(05:52:12) snua12: BobOfDoom, hi, can you some where put your kernel image for TC with wirking wifi?
(05:53:16) snua12: BobOfDoom, i've udes your 2.6 vanila kernel from hnd, but without any success.
(05:56:50) snua12: BobOfDoom, i think that GIPO 79 has something to do with wifi and GPIO 55 is'nt reset but it is connected to OE on LCX16244
(08:21:27) zefanja: hi...what is the best way to build a cross compiling environment?
(08:31:08) |miska|: Don't know which one is the best, but you can get cross-compiler from OE or other option is crossdev, but I think that this is gentoo specific. Also you can probably get some binary package with crosscompiler somewhere on the web...
(08:32:36) zefanja: |miska|: i want to build a kernel for the treo, but oe doesn't build a working kernel (for me)
(08:32:53) zefanja: what about crosstools?
(08:41:19) |miska|: /me used only binary package found somewhere on the web, OE crosscompiler and crosscompiler from crossdev :-(
(08:41:48) |miska|: You can edit config in OE and rebuild kernel...
(08:42:03) |miska|: Sorry, I don't know :-(
(08:42:25) zefanja: |miska|: np :-)
(09:02:44) Lars_G: /me lets go of PhrkOnLsh's leash
(09:04:30) PhrkOnLsh: WHO DARES HIGHLIGHT ME???
(09:05:31) Lars_G: /me shoves a stale bread in PhrkOnLsh's mouth
(09:05:31) Lars_G: here chew on that and stop screaming
(09:07:17) Sleep_Walker: hi Farcaller
(09:08:47) PhrkOnLsh: /me swallows the bread and bellows "HELLO" at Sleep_Walker 
(09:09:08) Lars_G: /me sighs
(09:09:10) Lars_G: kids these days
(09:09:42) PhrkOnLsh: /me growls
(09:10:25) Sleep_Walker: /me uses special mortal kombat combo to get behind your back, takes shovel, hit PhrkOnLsh's head and save his life by that
(09:12:16) PhrkOnLsh: FATALITY
(09:12:41) Sleep_Walker: yeah!
(09:14:43) flyback: /me notes nothing like accidentely sticking your hand into a bag full of spilled hydrocloric acid to wake you up for the day
(09:16:01) Lars_G: flyback: are you practicing for emo?
(09:16:24) Farcaller: hi Sleep_Walker, hi all
(10:06:20) thundercle1: anyone not just idling in here?
(10:08:44) |miska|: /me is definitely just idling :-B
(10:08:52) thundercles: hey
(10:09:08) thundercles: I compiled the kernel for the Tungsten TX
(10:09:22) thundercles: and threw it on there, and it wont even go into console off cocobot
(10:09:53) thundercles: the kernel is about the same size as the one I downloaded off your site miska
(10:10:04) thundercles: I just threw a couple extra little modules in there is all
(10:10:29) thundercles: do I need to generate a new initrd for my kernel or should the one off the site work, cause somethin isn't working
(10:10:37) |miska|: By console you mean you didn't get Tux logo or it won't boot?
(10:10:46) thundercles: it wont even reboot
(10:10:50) thundercles: it hangs in palmOS
(10:11:05) thundercles: but cocobot checks the kernel out as "OK"
(10:12:02) |miska|: Did you tried it several times?
(10:12:09) thundercles: yeah a coulpe
(10:12:27) |miska|: hmmm, strange...
(10:12:43) thundercles: same thing, I'd like to compile a new initrd and see if that works
(10:12:50) |miska|: You can try to use my .config and add modules you need one by one...
(10:12:52) thundercles: but I can't grab it off the git repository, the source
(10:13:00) thundercles: ah, well I did use your .config
(10:13:08) thundercles: but I threw in about 3 extra modules
(10:13:14) thundercles: I guess I could just throw in one of them for now
(10:13:24) thundercles: see if they are what's causing the hubub, but I dunno
(10:13:36) |miska|: Or maybe try it just with the same config
(10:13:45) thundercles: yeah, I suppose ;)
(10:13:59) |miska|: Maybe some cross-compiler error...
(10:14:25) thundercles: yeah might be I got my cross compiler off the fedora repo which sucks, I gotta run fedora for my music production though unfortunatly
(10:16:25) thundercles: I'll find out what cross compiler I"m using though, it was something weird and I just made links to make the kernel compile
(10:16:51) thundercles: yeah it says it's  the "arm-gp2x-linux" cross compiler
(10:26:12) thundercles: where's a copy of your .config since I changed the .config in the source I git-ted and I'm not too great with git (used to CVS)
(10:28:09) |miska|: My testing kernel config is on http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~miska/testing/config-tx
(10:32:13) |miska|: gp2x is armv4t, palmtx is armv5te without the floating point instructions. At least google found this. Not sure about floating points in case of gp2x
(10:33:46) thundercles: yeah well I am compiling your config through my cross compiler, if it doesn't work, then we'll know :-D
(10:34:40) thundercles: I am quite sure it's the cross compiler though, because if it were an extra module screwing it up it would have still rebooted and errored in the console
(10:36:20) thundercles: I'm glad though cause I am having trouble grabbing an initrd source from the hackndev repo, I have only managed to git-clone the kernel and the tools
(10:40:07) thundercles: yup that's what it's gotta be this one isn't booting either, guess I just gotta find a cross compiler for the arm5vte
(10:41:28) thundercles: but when I do recompile it correctly, I just rename the vmlinuz that comes out vImage and stick it on the palm where I had your kernel?
(10:41:50) thundercles: cause my face is red if that is incorrect since that's what I was doing
(10:44:50) |miska|: You just copy zImage which is in arch/arm/boot/zImage to root of your card
(10:45:52) thundercles: ah
(10:45:57) thundercles: just a sec
(10:46:26) |miska|: And I think that the necessary think is not armv5te, but arm-softfloat...
(10:47:02) thundercles: I found this page, you think these tools will work?
(10:47:03) thundercles: http://www.schnozzle.org/~coldwell/toolchain/
(10:48:33) thundercles: huzzah it worked, booting up your config I compiled
(10:48:45) thundercles: I was putting the wrong image on the card
(10:48:55) thundercles: I was just putting the straight kernel on there instead of the boot image
(10:49:54) thundercles: but speaking of the cards though, do you know if it runs a little less clunky off the internal memory, it has like 100 megs which is just enough for angstrom I think
(10:50:55) thundercles: it has some problems on mine with coming back after an extended suspend, and I'm thinking it's due to power saving features on the MMC drive which would unmount the root =-O
(10:50:59) |miska|: Don't know, I hope we will see ;-)
(10:51:35) |miska|: extended suspend?
(10:52:41) thundercles: yeah like it's been in suspend for a while
(10:52:49) thundercles: like if it's just in suspend for a minaute it comes back fine usaully
(10:53:01) thundercles: but if it's suspended for like half an hour then it will come back locked up
(10:53:42) |miska|: hmmmm
(10:54:55) thundercles: it runs fine off your card though, I was just wondering though, because I'm interested in helping you guys work out bugs and that'd be a good place to start if it's common at all :P]
(10:57:19) thundercles: otherwise I'm probably going to start trying to get the wifi card to work
(11:01:28) thundercles: well brb
(11:07:47) thundercles-aqui: o and my kernel is done, time to see if if those modules work or if I have to probe a bunch of hardware
(11:08:03) thundercles-aqui: hello
(11:10:28) Marex: good bye
(11:10:44) Marex: Belldandy, last --nolimit
(11:10:45) Belldandy: Marex: [20:07:44] <Marex> good bye, [20:05:19] <thundercles-aqui> hello, [20:05:04] <thundercles-aqui> o and my kernel is done, time to see if if those modules work or if I have to probe a bunch of hardware, [19:58:45] <thundercles> well brb, [19:54:36] <thundercles> otherwise I'm probably going to start trying to get the wifi card to work, [19:52:11] <thundercles> it runs fine off your card though, I was just (19 more messages)
(11:10:53) Marex: Belldandy, more
(11:10:54) Belldandy: Marex: wondering though, because I'm interested in helping you guys work out bugs and that'd be a good place to start if it's common at all :P], [19:50:59] <|miska|> hmmmm, [19:50:18] <thundercles> but if it's suspended for like half an hour then it will come back locked up, [19:50:06] <thundercles> like if it's just in suspend for a minaute it comes back fine usaully, [19:49:58] <thundercles> yeah like it's (18 more messages)
(11:11:11) Marex: Belldandy, whoami
(11:11:11) Belldandy: Marex: Marex
(11:11:35) Marex: thundercles-aqui, what device ?
(11:11:40) thundercles-aqui: TX
(11:11:47) thundercles-aqui: just compiled a kernel, trying to get wifi working
(11:12:22) Marex: good luck
(11:12:41) thundercles-aqui: lmao, I got time
(11:12:50) Marex: thundercles-aqui, what would be better is if you can push palmtx to -hh
(11:12:54) thundercles-aqui: what have you guys already done though, so I don't try re0inventing the wheel
(11:13:14) Marex: /me does nothing
(11:13:19) thundercles-aqui: lmao
(11:13:24) thundercles-aqui: to -hh?
(11:13:30) Marex: right
(11:14:12) thundercles-aqui: I'm new to the TX, the one I'm developing on right now isn't even mine
(11:14:24) Marex: well then dont kill it
(11:14:25) thundercles-aqui: gonna try and pick up a brokety one on ebay and replace parts eventually
(11:15:18) thundercles-aqui: well I'm not messing with flashing it and the memory is non-volatile so I'm hoping for the best :-P
(11:15:45) thundercles-aqui: I gotta get one of those stupid data cables though, the person I'm borrowing from lost hers
(11:15:50) Marex: thundercles-aqui, well |miska| wont lend me TX so I cant try to fix the reboot deadlock there
(11:16:02) thundercles-aqui: yeah, I noticed that
(11:16:22) thundercles-aqui: I also hang after a long suspend too, but I am assuming that's because I'm running the root off the card
(11:16:23) Marex: the fix is simple, |miska| is the blocker
(11:16:28) thundercles-aqui: HA
(11:17:27) thundercles: well, they are expensive
(11:17:37) thundercles: I'm surprised I got one loaned to me for this kinda stuff
(11:18:19) Marex: the problem is |miska| just dont want TX in -hh because his crappy code wont be accepted anymore
(11:18:42) thundercles: hahahaha
(11:18:42) Sleep_Walker: Marex: that is not true
(11:18:47) Marex: well none of my business, palmld and palmtx is already there
(11:18:51) Marex: your loss, not mine
(11:18:55) |miska|: Marex: Problem is you just yelling that hackndev is dead and hh.org rulez
(11:19:15) thundercles: naw, hh.org sucks for the palm stuff
(11:19:27) thundercles: it's good for the HP stuff that I can't ever dream to afford
(11:19:42) Sleep_Walker: Marex: just relax, take on your -hh t-shirt and be kind to |miska|, could you?
(11:19:45) Marex: thundercles, all PDAs are made by HTC, dont worry
(11:19:57) Lars_G: Are you guys hitting at eachother for real? how sad
(11:20:02) Marex: thundercles, moreover -hh is general repo and -hnd is just outdated derived tree
(11:20:09) Marex: so ... -hh is just a logical step
(11:20:40) thundercles: oh so you just are wanting help with a repo port is all when you said that earlier?
(11:20:41) Sleep_Walker: |miska|: he just have to say all that again :/
(11:20:47) |miska|: Lars_G: nope, just Marex hitting everyone around ;-)
(11:20:53) Marex: Sleep_Walker, nah, I will treat him as a useless burden till he wont stop being one
(11:21:27) Marex: thundercles, everything needed for palmtx is in -hh, it'd be just cut'n'paste
(11:21:40) thundercles: yeah, basically
(11:21:42) Sleep_Walker: Marex: you maybe can code, but as part of community you are just pain in ass :/
(11:21:45) Marex: and yea ... palms with -hh kernels work faster and more stable
(11:21:56) Marex: Sleep_Walker, same goes for you, thanks
(11:21:59) |miska|: Marex: You've got working wifi on LD with your almighty hh?
(11:22:07) Marex: |miska|, and you ?
(11:22:08) Sleep_Walker: Marex: you can submit TX into -hh
(11:22:11) Sleep_Walker: we all agreed
(11:22:22) Sleep_Walker: but we just still want to have it here
(11:22:24) Marex: Sleep_Walker, I dont have device and Im not going to sync it because of certain someone
(11:22:48) Sleep_Walker: Marex: we won't move it just because you want to
(11:22:53) Marex: if you want it here, you will do the same mistake that happened two years ago
(11:22:54) thundercles: well running repos off two sites is kinda counterproductive
(11:22:56) Marex: are you fine with that ?
(11:23:12) Sleep_Walker: Marex: I know what is the problem
(11:23:20) Marex: Sleep_Walker, your loss, not mine
(11:23:25) thundercles: unless the repo is this shitty ass fedora rpm repo I have to use :P
(11:23:37) Sleep_Walker: Marex: if you say so.. ;)
(11:23:52) Marex: the problem is miska's crippled code, right
(11:23:59) thundercles: oh yeah sleep_walker though, I am having trouble git-ting the initrd code off the repo from your folder
(11:24:09) |miska|: nope ;-)
(11:24:25) Sleep_Walker: thundercles: so do I ;D
(11:24:36) Sleep_Walker: thundercles: let me have a look
(11:25:13) thundercles: yeah, well the binary is working fine for now, I don't think I'm going to have to edit the initrd unless I need to load up certain new modules during boot and I don't think that's neccisarry, I'm just workign with the wifi modules right now
(11:25:50) Sleep_Walker: thundercles: I'll try to put there more up-to date with more cool features (r) :D
(11:26:29) thundercles: cool, I'll be sure to compile it
(11:26:42) Sleep_Walker: it's not to be compiled
(11:26:49) Sleep_Walker: it's already compiled
(11:27:12) thundercles: okay, that's good then because I havn't compiled an initrd for an embedded device before anyways :P
(11:27:21) Sleep_Walker: there is only busybox, dosfck and kbdd compiled
(11:27:39) Sleep_Walker: the important part is script for ash
(11:27:56) thundercles: yeah, those are fine, like I said, I'm working more with modules that only need to be active post-boot
(11:27:59) Sleep_Walker: hm, I haven't done my CHANGES yet
(11:32:58) thundercles: *sigh time for the handwritten console, I gotta get one of those lil keyboards
(11:33:15) thundercles: I have one for the old port that palms used, but not the new one
(11:34:21) thundercles: oh crap that's the problem, I didn't get the modules in
(11:36:41) thundercles: I wasn't supposed to make dep in my compile was I, I didn't think you had to do that anymore
(11:38:38) thundercles: lmao, it didn't load the module to recharge the battery even, almost ran outta power
(11:39:04) Lars_G: thundercles: it's nice to get fresh blood here :)
(11:39:09) Lars_G: go on and bleed him
(11:39:11) Lars_G: :P
(11:39:22) Lars_G: thundercles: where are you from? I notice you speak spanish?
(11:39:30) thundercles: Phoenix AZ
(11:39:53) Lars_G: Oh. odd
(11:40:05) thundercles: lo esta Phoenix, Mexicanos mucho aqui
(11:40:16) thundercles: I picked up a bit
(11:40:24) thundercles: you have to around here anymore
(11:40:33) thundercles: so I practice
(11:40:51) Lars_G: lol
(11:42:34) thundercles: where you from Lars_G
(11:45:06) Lars_G: venezuela
(11:45:47) thundercles: that's cool, I have a friend in Peru and another from Argentina, never known anyone from Venezuela
(11:46:12) thundercles: the guy who holds the world record for the furthest unamplified wifi transfer lives there tho
(11:49:23) thundercles: most people around here think that south of us is all 3rd world backwater, but they don't realize there are places like Mexico City and Rio de Jenerio, not all of latin america is Sonora
(11:53:18) thundercles: but miska, did you have to make dep when you compiled your kernel, my zImage didn't load a modules.dep
(11:54:09) |miska|: I'm using make modules_install to install modules...
(11:54:18) thundercles: ahhhh
(11:54:22) thundercles: yesh, that would work
(11:54:39) |miska|: But you have to specify root somehow
(11:54:43) |miska|: let me check
(11:55:01) thundercles: I can mount -o loop the angstrom opie root
(11:55:17) |miska|: make CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-eabi- INSTALL_MOD_PATH=../root/  modules_install
(11:55:30) |miska|: That's my line to install modules ;-)
(11:56:03) |miska|: By default it will install modules into /
(11:56:16) thundercles: well I hardlinked my cross compiler to arm-linux-* but the modpath is definetly neccisary
(11:56:25) |miska|: But I don't think that this is what you want
(11:56:59) thundercles: no, I'll just make a lil directory and let it install the modules in there and mount -o loop the angstrom root and cp in there, see if that works
(11:58:11) thundercles: okay that's good now I wont have to recompile the damn kernel every time I want to throw in a module now too
(11:58:36) thundercles: could I just throw the modules in that module squashfile from your website miska?
(11:59:18) |miska|: Well, you can let me check how does it get mounted...
(11:59:31) thundercles: yeah I've never worked with the squashfiles before
(11:59:47) |miska|: mksquashfs ../root/lib/modules ../modules.squash -all-root
(12:00:11) |miska|: But you have to have old mksquashfs :-(
(12:00:26) thundercles: eh I'll find an rpm for it somewhere
(12:01:27) Sleep_Walker: thundercles: you'd better download binaries
(12:01:36) Sleep_Walker: you probably wouldn't find it
(12:01:39) thundercles: I have all the binaries working
(12:01:39) |miska|: Problem is that we've got old squashfs-lzma driver in our kernel
(12:02:03) thundercles: hrm, maybe the modules file will work as an ext2?
(12:02:03) |miska|: I can give you working binaries I think
(12:02:17) |miska|: I think it will
(12:02:30) thundercles: yeah I'll just try that, the squashfiles arn't that much smaller anyways
(12:02:58) |miska|: Well, 40MB instead of 160MB
(12:03:07) thundercles: oh that is a lot actually
(12:03:12) thundercles: hows it manage that
(12:03:20) thundercles: that's a shitload of compression
(12:03:30) Sleep_Walker: LZMA
(12:03:35) |miska|: mount -o loop,nocheck,ro "/mnt/mmc/$MODULES" /lib/modules
(12:03:48) |miska|: So it should work with ext2 modules too
(12:04:14) thundercles: yup, as soon as I get back from lunch I'm gonna try that
(12:06:33) |miska|: tcles-comair: btw http://auryn.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/oe/squashfs-lzma-tools.tar.bz2 binaries of squashfs-lzma-tools I'm using, it's from kedar I think
(13:11:30) thundercles: thanks, lemme see how big the modules are, I will probably just do them ext2, but if the angstrom opie is too big to fit on the internal memory which it very well might be I might squash that
(13:39:57) |miska|: My current opie opie has 160MB in ext2 and 40MB in squashfs-lzma ;-)
(13:40:51) thundercles: I'll see how big mine is in a sec
(13:41:11) thundercles: mine appears to be 83.88 megs
(13:41:23) thundercles: no wait that's the other image I was using
(13:41:35) thundercles: the one that sucked cause it came from handhelds.org :-P
(13:42:24) thundercles: yeah mine is 167 megs
(13:42:34) thundercles: so I'll have to squash it to put it on the internal memory
(13:42:47) thundercles: but the internal memory is way faster then the card so it balances out
(13:43:01) thundercles: hopefully I'll have the modules.squash file working in a sec
(13:44:07) thundercles: what config file do you put the path to the modules.squash file in though, the rootfs one or the other one?
(13:44:29) thundercles: and does it load before or after the chroot, cause I had to make my home directory path out to media/mmc1 because it loads after chroot
(13:45:30) thundercles: sorry I'm asking so many questions, it just takes a lot of time to pop the card in run cocobot, see that something went wrong, reboot pop out the card make one change to a config file, repeat
(13:47:19) thundercles: omg
(13:47:38) thundercles: my usbcore driver actually found that damn USB host controller that is built into the proc, I'm gonna have fun with that later
(14:04:56) |miska|: /me doesn't understand all questions :-/
(14:05:13) thundercles: it's all right, lmao, I got everything working
(14:05:52) thundercles: I'm just trying to load up and get the modules working for the wifi and/or USB host controller in the device
(14:06:23) thundercles: and the modules loaded, I just gotta go through logs now and try and see what the opie software will do
(14:06:42) thundercles: cause opie has software for wifi, and I think usb devices
(14:09:20) |miska|: Well, if you want to get wifi working, I think the best way would be first to check it from console and then solve opie integration ;-)
(14:10:24) thundercles: yeah, good point, opie probably just uses the same commands and I'm using that freaking pop up keyboard when I use console
(14:10:36) thundercles: I should probably see if I can get usb working first real quick and try and plug in a USB keyboard
(14:11:17) |miska|: You can use USB to connect it to the PC and then test everything over ssh ;-)
(14:12:28) thundercles: yeah, you are toally right
(14:12:37) thundercles: completly forgot about that
(14:13:01) thundercles: unfortunatly I just talked to my aunt and she is the third person I've talked to who has lost their data cable
(14:13:21) thundercles: and I only have teh cable for the older palm port, so I need to find out if anyone else I know has one, cause those damn things cost like 30 bux
(14:13:41) thundercles: of course that price was at some wireless store, they probably mark up a bit
(14:14:52) |miska|: thundercles: You're from usa?
(14:15:46) thundercles: yeah
(14:15:51) thundercles: Arizona
(14:16:18) |miska|: /me thinks he bought his cable for something like $15
(14:16:42) thundercles: yeah, I could spare that, I think it's just because I went to a cellphone store and not an electronics store
(14:16:48) thundercles: and they always mark up their stuff
(14:17:31) thundercles: I bought a USB A connector to try and hook usb devices up to the palm up yesterday, I shoudda checked how much the data cables cost, but I was really not expecting all 3 people I know offhand to have lost theirs
(14:18:17) thundercles: where you from miska?
(14:29:44) |miska|: Czech Republic
(14:30:33) |miska|: /me has to get up early tomorrow, so gn all ;-)
(14:49:58) Lars_G: |miska|: you tehre still?
(14:50:14) Lars_G: |miska|: Before you go, can you /msg me the url again? I couldn't download it all and lost the url....
(14:53:26) Lars_G: he can't be gone!
(14:53:30) Lars_G: /me hiperventilates
(14:53:33) Lars_G: I want that url!!!
(15:21:17) thundercles: he went to bed
(15:21:21) thundercles: those czechs
(15:21:31) thundercles: and their being on the other side of the world
(15:21:41) Marex: thundercles, what about czechs ?
(15:21:46) Marex: any problem with us ?
(15:21:53) thundercles: no, I was joking
(15:22:07) Marex: Belldandy, last --with http
(15:22:08) Belldandy: Marex: [21:03:50] <|miska|> tcles-comair: btw http://auryn.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/oe/squashfs-lzma-tools.tar.bz2 binaries of squashfs-lzma-tools I'm using, it's from kedar I think
(15:22:09) thundercles: except that you sleep at the wrong time, sleep during the day so you all can be up at the same time as up
(15:22:13) Marex: Belldandy, last --with http --nolimit
(15:22:14) Belldandy: Marex: [00:19:24] <Marex> Belldandy, last --with http, [21:03:50] <|miska|> tcles-comair: btw http://auryn.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/oe/squashfs-lzma-tools.tar.bz2 binaries of squashfs-lzma-tools I'm using, it's from kedar I think, [19:44:19] <thundercles> http://www.schnozzle.org/~coldwell/toolchain/, and [19:25:25] <|miska|> My testing kernel config is on http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~miska/testing/config-tx
(15:22:58) thundercles: which url did you want Lars? I have everything logged since I got in the room
(15:23:46) Marex: thundercles, erm ... you got probably the wrong idea ... at least as for me, I dont do the hacking for anyone
(15:24:01) Marex: I consider anyone reusing the code a parasite, got it ?
(15:24:16) Marex: fine ... you should sleep during the day then
(15:24:33) Marex: well that's my opinion
(15:25:08) thundercles: well I try
(15:25:28) thundercles: and I'm actually trying to add to your code eventually
(15:25:50) Marex: ok
(15:26:50) thundercles: but I'd think you'd be proud of your work and want people to use it and see what you've done
(15:28:44) thundercles: and the czech thing was completly a joke about how it's odd what the internet does to people's sleeping schedules
(15:29:31) thundercles: the only bad thing I could think of to say about czechoslavakia is that whole duke ferdinand thing
(15:29:47) thundercles: ;)
(15:29:55) Marex: well I dont care about that
(15:30:02) Marex: and I dont care about others
(15:30:28) thundercles: well... what do ya then?
(15:30:34) Marex: I code because I have my own reason to do so
(15:31:35) thundercles: and that's good and you seem quite proficient at it, but you should lighten up a little.
(15:32:54) Marex: I really doubt you are in a role to give me advices, right ? ok, thanks
(15:33:11) Marex: and yea, I dont like people, get used to it
(15:34:24) thundercles: oh I'm quite used to it, I deal with people all the time where I'm one of the few they can even get along with at all, I'm real easy to get along with just back off a little
(15:34:59) Marex: I dont want to like people in the first place ...
(15:35:43) thundercles: it's developing into a completely unnecessary conflict, I just came here to get some very legitimate questions answered about your team's work and offer some help
(15:35:57) thundercles: I really don't care if you do or do not like people, I have my own reasons for doing things too
(15:37:33) Marex: I dont see any conflict
(15:37:50) Marex: I just dont care about anything and anyone ... is it so hard to understand such simple thing ?
(15:38:03) thundercles: I completly understand, then it's settled :-D
(15:38:11) Marex: thank you :)
(15:38:15) thundercles: righto
(15:38:38) thundercles: hey I don't work with wifi much do you know what the module name for the 802.11 module is, I compiled it I just don't remember the name for modprobe
(15:40:07) flyback: /me goes to cook another steak bbl
(15:45:13) Marex: there is no driver for palmtx wifi
(15:45:40) thundercles: I know
(15:46:13) thundercles: I figured I'd probably be able to work off the bluetooth one and get a wifi one working
(15:46:58) Marex: bt already works
(15:47:28) thundercles: yeah, I know, but it'll say alot about probing the various hardware on that Xcore
(15:47:50) thundercles: the wifi is probably addressed right next to it if you even have to probe in manually
(15:49:00) Marex: what are you talking about ?
(15:49:13) Marex: do you have any idea about the wifi in palmtx ?
(15:50:19) thundercles: yeah it's a pretty hard core MMX
(15:50:30) thundercles: but code has got to exist for something similar
(15:53:05) Marex: ok, you have no idea
(15:53:11) thundercles: but yeah it will be a pain, prolly have to compile crap into x86 for teh drivers
(15:53:26) thundercles: yeah the wifi chip is a lil IA32
(15:57:26) thundercles: has intel never built a wifi card for like laptops or something using that chip on a pcmcia board?
(16:01:46) thundercles: I just don't see intel wasting all that R&D on producing a completely new chip-set to handle wifi when they already have all those laptop pcmcia chipsets
(16:02:44) thundercles: but intel has a plant or two in the area and I know a couple people that work at them, if push really comes to shove I'll see if they can find out any info for me :-D
(16:42:11) flyback: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pk6s1MbszA&feature=related# <--- cool
(16:43:54) thundercles: hrm wat the hell is in those gummies that will oxidize like that?
(16:44:05) thundercles: oh the sugar
(16:44:45) thundercles: sugar's hard core stuff :-D
(17:26:53) Lars_G: it was in private but marex exposed another copy of it! thanks marex
(17:27:08) Lars_G: you might be a sociopath but you're a kind sociopath
(17:30:06) flyback: /me bbl, nature calls
(17:30:34) Lars_G: Marex: seriously. thanks
(17:30:42) Lars_G: flyback: does it sound like tarzan?
(17:40:45) flyback: /me looks like he has malaria right now because his allergies have made his eyes and area around them so red
(17:44:20) Lars_G: stop smoking pot
(18:23:56) flyback: uh
(18:23:58) flyback: never touched the shit
(18:24:00) flyback: never plan to
(18:37:51) thundercles: what's up Lars, flyback.
(18:38:42) flyback: hi
(18:43:09) thundercles: yeah I'm just trying all the wifi devices already before I go and dig around in other similar devices' code (there are a couple other devices using pretty much the same intel chips, and I know one of them runs linux) or even try and make a driver in intel's SDK
(18:43:45) thundercles: but I misplaced my glasses I can't see crap
(19:40:43) erikoooooooooo: Escriba el texto aqu?....holas quien sabe de redes inalambricas con usb
(19:49:59) thundercles: por que
(19:50:05) thundercles: adios para fumar