(10:34:00) ferret_0567: BobOfDoom: hello
(10:34:39) ferret_0567: do you have any idea why /dev/hda1 on a LifeDrive is of partition type FAT16? Is it really FAT16 and is the "ROM area" of the LifeDrive?
(10:35:23) ferret_0567: I copied the /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2 to two different files, and they are ready for transfer to my powerful desktop computer for some investigations
(10:36:39) ferret_0567: I guess I'd better boot Palm OS and copy those files over using USB
(10:39:35) ferret_0567: hey Marex
(10:40:17) ferret_0567: do you have any idea why /dev/hda1 on a LifeDrive is partition type FAT16? I am wondering if I can mount that as FAT16 and if it's the ROM area or not
(10:48:18) ferret_0567: I hate the fact that Palm OS wants to reformat my ext2 and swap partitions...into FAT32....
(10:49:00) ferret_0567: so I want to write a bootloader that boots into Linux directly, and if I have to figure out how to get the Palm OS bootloader to run my bootloader then that's fine, too
(10:52:00) Marex: well I know how to palmos's bootloader works ;)
(10:52:08) Marex: s/to/the/
(10:52:26) ferret_0567: ok, can you post your info on a website somewhere?
(10:52:45) Marex: nope
(10:53:07) ferret_0567: does Palm not want you to post it?
(10:53:14) Marex: nope
(10:53:24) ferret_0567: busy with school?
(10:53:29) Marex: nope
(10:53:37) ferret_0567: /me stops guessing
(10:53:47) snua12_n770: hi Marex
(10:54:08) Marex: snua12_n770
(10:57:54) ferret_0567: is this the glaring times?
(10:58:31) Marex: snua12_n770, hi
(11:00:01) ferret_0567: Marex: my LifeDrive is faster and more stable with swap than without
(11:00:29) Marex: well I dont care
(11:00:37) Marex: userspace isnt my domain
(11:01:45) ferret_0567: ok
(11:02:06) ferret_0567: I'm going to program for kernelspace, too
(11:03:28) ferret_0567: the problem with me right now is that my program has this insidious bug in it...
(11:03:40) ferret_0567: it's horrible
(11:03:55) |miska|: What kind of bug?
(11:04:51) |miska|: What are you programming?
(11:04:53) ferret_0567: it counts the line length horribly wrong if you pass it the whole C source code file it was written in, but when you pass it just the longest-line, it's only off -1
(11:05:09) ferret_0567: |miska|: The C Programming Language, 2nd Edition exercises
(11:05:57) |miska|: /me never read any book about programming in any language
(11:06:07) ferret_0567: how did you learn then?
(11:06:53) Marex: ferret_0567, |miska| cant code so ...
(11:07:03) ferret_0567: Marex: oh...I get it...
(11:07:33) |miska|: I just wake up and I realized, that I can code ;-)
(11:07:55) ferret_0567: |miska|: don't go all The Matrix on me
(11:08:02) |miska|: :-D
(11:09:26) ferret_0567: I've read a ton about pointer arithmetic
(11:09:30) |miska|: I think, that the best way to learn how to code is to try to solve some problem and then just read the relevant parts in the manual ;-)
(11:09:43) ferret_0567: and pointer initialization
(11:12:13) |miska|: Never used any special pointer initialization, never read anything about it :-/
(11:12:34) ferret_0567: |miska|: char *p = a[0];
(11:12:52) ferret_0567: |miska|: if the array is a char array, that should make the pointer "point to"
(11:13:06) ferret_0567: ...the first index of the character array "a"
(11:13:08) |miska|: nope
(11:13:12) ferret_0567: nope?
(11:13:20) ferret_0567: /me reads book
(11:14:24) ferret_0567: oh no! it was "char *p;", then "p = &a[0];"
(11:14:24) |miska|: If a is an array, then a is a pointer to the first element of this array
(11:14:46) ferret_0567: then p is a reference to a[0]
(11:14:52) |miska|: That's crazy, but it can work
(11:15:17) Marex: woohoo
(11:15:19) Marex: I jumped
(11:15:25) ferret_0567: |miska|: don't tell me, tell Brain W. Kernighan
(11:16:01) ferret_0567: Brian*
(11:16:16) ferret_0567: I make typing mistakes often :/
(11:18:46) Marex: yep, palmld jumped into bootloader
(11:18:52) Marex: oh thanks -hh kernel
(11:18:56) |miska|: I mean, by using a[0] you are actually accessing memory that a pointer point's to and then you are using & to get its address. Wouldn't be much easier to just use 'a'?
(11:19:20) ferret_0567: I don't know
(11:19:24) ferret_0567: I'm not there yet
(11:19:32) ferret_0567: I'm stuck on this Exercise 1-16 :/
(11:19:56) Marex: do you strip newlines and such stuff ?
(11:20:10) ferret_0567: not that I know of
(11:20:31) ferret_0567: it's a counting bug
(11:21:01) Marex: newline - 0x0d
(11:21:20) Marex: btw I know why the reset bug on palm/pxa27x happens
(11:23:30) snua12: Marex, can you fix it? (reset bug)
(11:23:42) Marex: sure
(11:24:10) Marex: RSCR = 0x1 ; PSPR = 0x0;
(11:24:15) Marex: here is your fix
(11:24:26) Marex: just before reboot, set it like that and you should be fine
(11:26:29) Marex: ferret_0567, you should hang around handhelds.org if you are concerned about palmld, same goes for you, snua12
(11:27:57) ferret_0567: Marex: ok
(11:54:12) Lars_G: /me weeps
(12:44:21) zefanja|away: hi...I get this error when I build with oe: http://www.pastebin.ca/994949 Any idea?
(12:50:55) |miska|: zefanja: Try this http://auryn.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/oe/linux-hackndev-2.6_git.bb
(12:55:52) zefanja: |miska|: thanks
(12:56:02) zefanja: |miska|: where was the problem?
(12:56:30) |miska|: I think there are two problems in OE for TX
(12:56:50) |miska|: First - git fetcher from bitbake is weird
(12:57:25) |miska|: Secod - PalmTX has some weird dependencies in kernel like old version of busybox
(12:57:53) |miska|: At least these two problems I found not so long time ago
(12:57:55) Sleep_Walker: sounds even more weird :b
(12:59:33) zefanja: ok :-)
(13:01:09) Marex: zefanja, the problem is |miska| is blocking upstreaming of palmtx to -hh
(13:01:17) Marex: zefanja, hh kernel builds fine and is up to date
(13:04:12) |miska|: /me isn't blocking anything, he just doesn't worship almighty Marex ;-)
(13:04:58) Marex: so refusing to upstream isnt blocking
(13:05:04) Marex: I see, it's totally different
(13:06:30) |miska|: refusing to drop support for not completely supported device is blocking?
(13:06:59) |miska|: I said then you can commit some palmtx patches into hh.org
(13:07:17) |miska|: I said that I just don't want to drop TX from hackndev
(13:07:34) zefanja: http://www.pastebin.ca/994977 <-- now this is my problem
(13:08:46) |miska|: Isn't it the same?
(13:10:22) |miska|: zefanja: Did you run 'bitbake -cclean linux-hackndev-2.6' ?
(13:10:32) zefanja: |miska|: yes...but know in the .../kernel directory
(13:10:48) zefanja: |miska|: no..i will try it
(13:20:15) zefanja: sry for all the questions, but I'm not skilled very much in things like oe ;-)
(13:21:48) |miska|: /me isn't either, but he learned some useful tricks recently...
(13:25:12) |miska|: Still not skilled enough :-(
(13:25:27) flyback: /me is going in for eval tomarrow to get his ass fixed
(15:54:15) PhrkOnLsh: Lars_G: Dima's leaving is no surprise. :)
(17:24:39) Lars_G: PhrkOnLsh: yeah, and still he's doing it graciously.
(17:24:46) Lars_G: I expected a louder departure
(17:25:47) PhrkOnLsh: He;s not gone yet, mind you. Read the whole 1src thread.
(18:42:50) flyback: /me is so cynical right now that he almost hopes the doctor finds cancer tomarrow so that the defective gene pool finally dies off
(18:43:27) Lars_G: flyback: I once was in a chat room for depressed people, and there was a guy who was sent home by the doctors to die.
(18:43:36) Lars_G: Beleive me, one thing is the wish, another is the reality.
(20:04:56) flyback: /me bbl
(23:40:53) flyback: well folks I might be ending up in the er shortly so if I don't return to irc in a few days you can start worying
(23:42:11) PhrkOnLsh: I wish you the best luck flyback
(23:42:42) PhrkOnLsh: /me g'night
(23:44:14) flyback: /me bbl hopefully
(23:59:23) flyback: /me is ok now thx folks