(00:23:21) Sleep_Walker: PhrkOnLsh: heh, good news :)
(00:23:28) Sleep_Walker: marex would be glad
(00:23:33) PhrkOnLsh: Sleep_Walker: get to works folks :-B
(00:35:06) BobOfDoom: heh
(00:35:10) BobOfDoom: he's a bit slow
(00:39:59) BobOfDoom: I guess the bluetooth chip would count as a third processor :p
(00:45:53) BobOfDoom: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2007-September/006453.html
(00:46:56) BobOfDoom: ^ OLPC discussion about replacing firmware on 88W8388 which is a later version of the same thing according to marex
(04:30:47) Sleep_Walker: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/900180
(04:36:34) BobOfDoom: Sleep_Walker: haha, nice :)
(04:38:58) [ics]: hi all
(04:40:45) Sleep_Walker: hi
(04:40:45) [ics]: :)
(04:40:45) [ics]: i've a question about reflashing on TT3
(04:45:54) BobOfDoom: [ics]: just ask, I probably won't know but maybe Sleep_Walker will
(04:46:25) Sleep_Walker: [ics]: I don't know if I can answer until you ask
(04:48:22) [ics]: ah sorry
(04:48:25) [ics]: :)
(04:49:01) [ics]: when i try to flash_erase my mtd1, i receive a permission denied
(04:49:09) [ics]: root@palm:~# flash_eraseall /dev/mtd1
(04:49:13) [ics]: flash_eraseall: /dev/mtd1: Permission denied
(04:49:25) Sleep_Walker: hmm
(04:49:34) Sleep_Walker: that would be question for Farcaller
(04:49:57) Sleep_Walker: try to verbosely ask in the forum - he'll answer you in some time
(04:50:25) [ics]: (palmt3_flash and mtdchar modules loaded)
(04:50:29) [ics]: ah ok
(04:52:15) BobOfDoom: bweheh, I just bought an old TT3 and TC on ebay
(04:53:21) [ics]: :)
(04:53:26) Sleep_Walker: BobOfDoom: great :)
(04:53:49) [ics]: i've changed my t3 with a treo680
(04:54:07) BobOfDoom: hoping to get the wifi in the TC working... since the Asus MyPal 716 hackers got the same chip working
(04:55:02) BobOfDoom: hmm.. maybe I should get Zire 72 and TX as well to compete with Marex's palm-count
(04:56:15) BobOfDoom: I was thinking of getting a second treo650 (partly broken so very cheap) so that I can mess with it without interrupting my normal phone usage but decided to wait for openmoko freerunner instead
(04:59:22) Sleep_Walker: I haven't tried my Treo680 yet... but I'm looking forward to it :)
(05:02:12) BobOfDoom: :)
(05:15:32) [ics]: sorry but i've another question
(05:15:48) [ics]: I notice that my screen is shifted on right
(05:16:08) [ics]: only under X
(05:16:18) [ics]: on boot framebuffer it's ok
(05:17:17) [ics]: i'm using t3-gpe-farcaller-042806 rootfs
(05:18:40) step2back: cool
(05:18:40) step2back: The OpenEmbedded project has started to maintain a stable branch, next to its development branch, on March 28th 2007. Besides "org.openembedded.dev" there now is the "org.openembedded.stable" branch
(05:29:21) Farcaller: hi all
(05:29:25) [ics]: Hi Farcaller
(05:29:29) [ics]: :)
(05:29:34) [ics]: I've a question
(05:29:47) [ics]: I'm trying to reburn my flash on tt3
(05:30:10) [ics]: but on flash_eraseall i receive permission denied
(05:31:04) Farcaller: you might be using wrong kernel with r/o flash access
(05:31:13) [ics]: ah
(05:31:42) [ics]: i'm using zImage.k106 with cocoboot
(05:32:47) Farcaller: ???? cat /proc/mtd
(05:32:48) Farcaller: err
(05:32:49) Farcaller: *show
(05:33:05) [ics]: root@palm:/mnt/mmc# cat /proc/mtd
(05:33:05) [ics]: dev:    size   erasesize  name
(05:33:05) [ics]: mtd0: 00020000 00020000 "SmallROM"
(05:33:05) [ics]: mtd1: 00020000 00020000 "U-BOOT"
(05:33:05) [ics]: mtd2: 00e00000 00020000 "BigROM"
(05:33:08) [ics]: mtd3: 00020000 00020000 "uboot-env"
(05:33:45) Farcaller: hmmmm
(05:34:03) Farcaller: stupid question, but are you running all that as root?
(05:34:11) [ics]: yes :D
(05:34:32) [ics]: root@palm:/mnt/mmc# flash_eraseall /dev/mtd1
(05:34:32) [ics]: flash_eraseall: /dev/mtd1: Permission denied
(05:34:48) [ics]: :(
(05:35:28) Farcaller: and this modules: http://old.hackndev.com/node/575 ?
(05:36:35) [ics]: mhm.. i haven't tried this before, i will
(05:36:43) [ics]: tnx
(05:37:33) [ics]: /me is updating the SD...
(05:37:35) step2back: Poodle kernel 2.6.23 images available from the angstrom stable branch
(05:37:35) step2back: I want 2.6.23 image for LD too
(05:37:40) Farcaller: and here's correct garux: http:/old./hackndev.com/node/574
(05:37:44) Farcaller: http://old.hackndev.com/node/574
(05:37:53) Farcaller: all that is stated in howto btw ;)
(05:38:04) [ics]: :O
(05:39:22) Farcaller: even md5's are there:
(05:39:22) Farcaller: Get two images, verify md5sum:
(05:39:22) Farcaller: 13d5b80e6fa7e130afc026e3a298aa2d  smallrom.bin
(05:39:22) Farcaller: 45155b0514406643a89c2e8a90fbfa65  u-boot.bin
(05:39:22) Farcaller: 9bf4a5bf039c900551a0165bb016a3ee  garux.prc
(05:39:23) Farcaller: 4454817cb4e8e4ac5a0d9fbba1e12748  02-kernel-modules.squashfs
(05:40:32) [ics]: ok , tnx Farcaller , sorry for my annoying questions :)
(05:40:32) Farcaller: np
(05:40:46) Farcaller: I need something to distract me from that objective-c hell anyways :D
(05:40:55) [ics]: :)
(05:44:36) step2back: somebody, please, ask Marex for new palmld-image
(05:44:43) Farcaller: XD
(05:45:05) Farcaller: @later tell Marex can you please make new palmld-image? ;)
(05:45:18) Farcaller: uhm
(05:45:19) Sleep_Walker: :D
(05:45:25) Farcaller: where's Belldandy?
(05:45:42) Sleep_Walker: Marex: could you please make new palmld-image? :D
(05:45:48) Farcaller: :D
(05:45:51) Sleep_Walker: step2back: here you are ;D ^^
(05:45:56) Farcaller: lol
(05:45:59) step2back: bit thx fo all
(05:46:09) step2back: bit = big
(05:46:37) Sleep_Walker: step2back: you're welcome :)
(05:46:52) step2back: /me download OE.mnt for building org.openembedded.stabel
(05:46:55) step2back: stable
(05:47:21) Farcaller: I wonder if he would think that it was april fools joke request ^_^
(05:48:54) step2back: what is version of hnd-kernel ?
(05:49:09) Sleep_Walker: "current" ;b
(05:49:24) Sleep_Walker: it's in Makefile isn't it?
(05:50:10) step2back: thx. you are right
(05:53:04) Farcaller: nah, "obsolete" sounds more correct :)
(05:53:16) Sleep_Walker: ok :b
(05:53:48) Marex: right
(05:54:08) Marex: Im now hacking on some Ericsson GSM modem
(05:54:12) Marex: DND
(05:54:32) Marex: sudo Sleep_Walker bitbake palmld_image
(05:54:46) Sleep_Walker: yes, Sir!
(05:54:47) Farcaller: [_navBar showLeftButton: nil withStyle: 0 rightButton: @"Mute" withStyle: 1]; <- that is hell
(05:55:03) Farcaller: /me can't rethink that in C++
(05:55:10) Sleep_Walker: /me bakes palmld
(05:55:29) Marex: Farcaller, is that c++ ?
(05:55:33) Farcaller: that's obj-c
(05:55:34) Sleep_Walker: objc
(05:56:29) Farcaller: /me needs jabber client *badly*, that's the only reason to code that ugly crappy obj-c
(05:57:25) Sleep_Walker: and there is not already made jabber client in Obj-c?
(05:57:50) Sleep_Walker: or - why don't you use some client in python?
(05:58:15) Farcaller: python is dealy slow
(05:58:16) Farcaller: :(
(05:58:44) Farcaller: ~10-15 seconds just to load initinal framework bundles
(06:01:31) Sleep_Walker: crap :b
(06:02:24) step2back: all around us live and fixing http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3410
(06:15:11) BobOfDoom: so what is T3 Linux missing, fully-featured SD driver, anything else?
(06:15:50) Farcaller: whoa, Alex! long time no see :)
(06:16:03) univac: yup :)
(06:16:27) BobOfDoom: hi! :)
(06:16:36) univac: hi
(06:16:52) Farcaller: yup, there seem to be everything now, except SDIO
(06:17:03) BobOfDoom: /me has T|C and T3 coming in the post :D
(06:17:17) Farcaller: :)
(06:17:25) univac: wifi ;]
(06:17:33) univac: in ld
(06:17:56) BobOfDoom: I'm thinking of trying to get TC wifi working
(06:18:06) BobOfDoom: since it actually has drivers for linux
(06:19:10) Farcaller: /me wonders if there's any code to make MRVL868x work
(06:19:17) BobOfDoom: anyone know if T3's IR module is wired so that you can fake remote-control signals?
(06:19:30) Farcaller: sure it does
(06:19:44) Farcaller: TT3, the best h/w thingy ever ;)
(06:19:54) BobOfDoom: excellent! :)
(06:20:19) BobOfDoom: I saw this nice gizmo on ebay, mains power switch rigged to IR receiver
(06:20:42) BobOfDoom: so can turn on and off lights and appliances and stuff with T3 then :)
(06:21:10) Farcaller: /me just noticed a line in dmesg about firmware being uploaded to multitouch h/w over SPI (right after his helloworld crashed the device)
(06:22:40) Farcaller: AppleMultitouchSPI: downloaded 44480 bytes of firmware data ("0x0087.hex") in 75ms (12ms stage 1, 63ms stage 2).
(06:23:43) Marex: Farcaller, you put linux on icraphone ?
(06:24:03) Farcaller: nah, I've put a helloworld that kills the core :D
(06:24:06) BobOfDoom: sheesh.. 44k just to read touchscreen, ineffecient :p
(06:24:27) Marex: yea, palmld wifi firmware is about the same size :D
(06:24:32) Marex: you see ... apple :p
(06:24:37) Farcaller: lol
(06:25:55) Farcaller: there is one big problem with all that iphone-linux stuff. Crappy h/w with absolutely no specs
(06:26:08) Marex: funny :)
(06:26:20) Marex: I have no specs of the ericsson too
(06:26:33) Farcaller: so I'm not going to port anything... while AndyI hasn't got his hands on iPhone :D
(06:26:36) univac: ericsson++
(06:26:38) Marex: BobOfDoom, Im thinking about gpiotracing the palmld wifi, might help a bit
(06:27:35) BobOfDoom: Marex: what do you mean by gpio tracing? hooking to monitor gpio level changes?
(06:27:54) Marex: nah, using GPIOtrace tool :)
(06:28:16) BobOfDoom: ehh.. that sounds exciting? what does it do?
(06:28:19) Marex: my stone hammer that broke palmtt3 bluetooth
(06:28:23) BobOfDoom: :D
(06:28:23) Marex: 8)
(06:28:34) Marex: /me likes manowar :p
(06:28:44) Farcaller: oh.. it was a hammer? Next time use your head for double damage :D
(06:29:02) BobOfDoom: btw, I'm trying to buy some broken LD so I can steal some HDD cable from it and fix mine
(06:29:32) Farcaller: /me has got one more deadly helloword :-\
(06:29:40) BobOfDoom: properly instead of dodgy solder wires to the mainboard and boot using the recovery console method :p
(06:29:50) Marex: hehee :)
(06:30:05) Marex: BobOfDoom, Im off to school for two hours, hope we can talk later
(06:30:18) Marex: bye for now
(06:30:18) BobOfDoom: ok
(06:30:21) BobOfDoom: have fun
(06:30:40) Marex: BobOfDoom, btw if you have jabber/gtalk, pm me and I can send you gpio trace sources
(06:30:53) Marex: I will sooner or later release them, but not yet, they are really piggy
(06:31:19) BobOfDoom: what's your jabber address? I forget marex@jabber.cz or something wasn't it?
(06:31:35) Marex: bye
(06:31:48) Marex: BobOfDoom, see PM
(06:32:00) BobOfDoom: ok
(06:32:01) BobOfDoom: bye
(06:35:36) step2back: BobOfDoom, hello
(06:35:51) BobOfDoom: Farcaller: are W86L488Y specs available publicly now or just coming soon?
(06:36:00) BobOfDoom: step2back: hi
(06:36:18) Farcaller: that's April Fools joke :P
(06:37:03) BobOfDoom: bastard :p
(06:37:09) Farcaller: :D
(06:37:22) BobOfDoom: Submitted by Farcaller on 31 March, 2008 - 22:00.  <-- pfft
(06:37:24) BobOfDoom: :p
(06:37:42) Farcaller: Submitted by Farcaller on 1 April, 2008 - 00:00.
(06:37:46) Farcaller: your tz is screwed :P
(06:37:52) Farcaller: or mine :)
(06:37:53) step2back: )
(06:38:30) BobOfDoom: mm
(06:38:41) BobOfDoom: actually it's no longer april 1 for me
(06:38:48) BobOfDoom: 00:38 april 2nd
(06:39:07) BobOfDoom: stupid timezones
(06:39:24) Farcaller: :)
(06:40:29) Farcaller: that's not stupid timezones. stupid timezones is linux/hackintosh using UTC and windows using local time
(06:40:29) Farcaller: (in h/w clock)
(06:40:39) BobOfDoom: no, worse is palmos using freaking 1942 or whatever it is epoch :p
(06:40:39) Farcaller: I've discovered 12 hrs shift yesterday after booting win to restore iphone several times
(06:40:48) Farcaller: iphone uses 2001/01/01 ;)
(06:41:21) step2back: )))
(06:41:32) BobOfDoom: well at least that's a more sensible direction to push the epoch if you're not going to use the standard
(06:41:48) Farcaller: lol
(06:42:01) step2back: oh... that old bug with time
(06:43:00) Farcaller: /me is getting deadly irritated with [[[...] ...] ...] obj-c stuff >:-E
(06:47:59) BobOfDoom: Farcaller: re: me_and_olga.jpg ... I always imagine you as being more bearded and less suit-wearing :p photos are suprising
(06:48:49) BobOfDoom: or don't tell me that's another april fools :p
(06:48:56) Farcaller: I've shaved it and got a suit, haven't been wearing it for 3 years :D
(06:50:30) BobOfDoom: :)
(06:50:52) Farcaller: if you look through balorg's album you might notice me in more "true me" look&feel :)
(07:06:23) [ics]: Farcaller sorry but garux.prc and kernel modules seem to be broken link
(07:07:16) Farcaller: hmm
(07:07:35) [ics]: garux.prc i downloaded is an html page
(07:09:17) Farcaller: /me tries to figure file path in drupal hellish redirects
(07:10:44) Farcaller:  # for i in fscache/*/*/*; do file $i; done
(07:10:44) Farcaller: fscache/02/C9/02C99E44: PalmOS application "Garux"
(07:10:44) Farcaller: fscache/0D/25/0D254144: gzip compressed data, from Unix, last modified: Sun Mar 12 16:11:58 2006
(07:10:44) Farcaller: fscache/17/B6/17B60544: Squashfs filesystem, little endian, version 3.0, 529647 bytes, 77 inodes, blocksize: 65536 bytes, created: Mon Apr 24 19:13:48 2006
(07:10:44) Farcaller: fscache/1F/EA/1FEA8E34: bzip2 compressed data, block size = 900k
(07:10:44) Farcaller: hehe
(07:10:44) BobOfDoom: :D nice
(07:12:10) Farcaller: hm.. There's a session login bug in old drupal preventing me from logging in....
(07:12:19) Farcaller: /me gone browsing raw sql
(07:14:58) Farcaller: aha
(07:15:32) step2back: who knows how let bitbake run in multi processing?
(07:16:45) Farcaller: [ics]: http://stuff.farcaller.net/{garux.prc,02-kernel-modules.squashfs}
(07:16:58) [ics]: tnx very much Farcaller
(07:17:14) Farcaller: hm
(07:17:18) Farcaller: md5's do not match...
(07:17:28) [ics]: :O
(07:18:13) Farcaller: still I'm sure that are correct fies :-/
(07:18:30) [ics]: :)
(07:19:52) Farcaller: size does match :)
(07:31:37) step2back: hmmm grep in source and find answer BB_NUMBER_THREADS
(07:37:34) step2back: ok. bitbake started. i wait for palmld-image, )
(07:51:48) Farcaller: cya all
(11:59:15) ikaruga2099: hey guys... what's the status of linux on the tx? does it have wifi yet?
(11:59:31) |miska|: no
(11:59:53) ikaruga2099: |miska|: dang it
(12:02:40) ikaruga2099: what about syncing? syncing on linux currently sucks (no offence) Would I have to use kpilot, gpilot, or opensync to sync opie to my desktop?
(12:13:16) |miska|: opensync works I think, *pilots are for sync with PalmOS only. You can use scp to get some pretty XML files from Opie...
(12:17:40) ikaruga2099: |miska|: no I just tried opensync -- it's buggier than *pilots. So basically, there really isn't any app to sync stuff from linux palm to a pc?
(12:18:15) univac: synce
(12:23:46) |miska|: Ask z72ka, he may know some GUI for syncing. I'm happy with scp.
(12:38:10) ikaruga2099: thanx
(13:08:18) Marex: asshole ...
(16:17:40) clever: .
(17:56:24) Lars_G: PhrkOnLsh: do you think dmitry will take offense that I want him to die to look at his hdd?
(17:56:37) Lars_G: I meant it in a good way.
(17:56:52) Lars_G: And only after I decided there was no way to befriend him close enough for him to share willingly :D
(18:01:24) step2back: morning
(18:06:47) Lars_G: step2back: WHERE?
(18:06:54) Lars_G: Oh. Japan
(18:06:59) step2back: hm.
(18:07:08) Lars_G: Mother russia too
(18:07:55) step2back: I guess noon in Japan
(18:08:03) Lars_G: You might be right.
(18:08:10) Lars_G: Let me see if I have some sort of world clock
(18:08:26) Lars_G: No I dont.
(18:08:29) Lars_G: But I have timezones
(18:09:13) Lars_G: step2back: 10:08 am in tokyo
(18:12:06) step2back: oh, I guess they don't live in "summer time" (+1)
(21:30:30) jaem: hey all
(21:31:07) jaem: Happy April Fools, where applicable
(21:46:44) jaem: I've got a question for anyone that knows...
(21:48:38) jaem: There seems to be a lot of contradictory information on the web about this, so just to clarify: what are the licensing restrictions regarding developing programs (e.g. for Opie) that link QT/E and GPL'd code?
(22:36:00) jae1: hey all... back
(22:36:15) jae1: as it turns out, the internet works better when the switch is plugged in to the router
(22:36:18) jae1: go figure...
(22:41:17) jae1: ah... good - my virtual self has logged off now
(23:19:03) jae1: good evening/your current time, Miska