(00:06:05) fahhem: I can't find it online, or in the code, i dunno where gcc is pulling the definition from...
(00:11:28) fahhem: well, if anyone cares, its from bitfield.h
(01:38:21) zefanja: moin...I build a kernel with make palmt650_defconfig and make, but where can I find the zImage??
(01:39:04) zefanja: and do I have to build an initramfs or is it build in the kernel?
(01:41:58) zefanja: i have a vmlinux image - how can i make a zImage?
(01:46:09) fahhem: its in a folder, lemme check
(01:46:37) fahhem: arch/arm/boot/zImage
(01:47:26) zefanja: thx...i did a make zImage
(01:47:55) fahhem: oh, that too
(01:48:03) fahhem: hey, anyone have a disk image of the LD?
(01:48:11) zefanja: what about the initramfs?
(01:48:26) fahhem: which pda are you using?
(01:48:33) zefanja: Palm Treo 650
(01:48:51) zefanja: fahhem: how can I build it?
(01:48:57) |miska|: zefanja: It depends if you need one ;-)
(01:49:21) fahhem: it looks like one is used for treo 650
(01:49:25) |miska|: You can build it into your kernel or use separate initrd.gz
(01:49:53) zefanja: |miska|: where do i have to config this?
(01:50:10) slapin: /me is alive!
(01:50:20) slapin: any news from volunteers?
(01:50:29) fahhem: volunteers?
(01:50:30) slapin: hi, all! It is so good to be alive!
(01:50:35) |miska|: slapin: hi
(01:51:00) |miska|: Is there enough volunteers already to start?
(01:51:02) slapin: fahhem, have you volunteer to do something?
(01:51:15) fahhem: uhh, i'm doing the dalboot for Lifedrive
(01:51:28) fahhem: i dunno if i officially volunteered for anything
(01:52:00) slapin: |miska|, well, I can't get a result for simple test for over two weeks, which makes me think of worst.
(01:52:01) |miska|: fahhem: I think, he's speaking about trying to port current vanilla for our PDA
(01:52:19) |miska|: What test?
(01:53:01) slapin: |miska|, for simple build test with -DDD from fresh oe-dev
(01:54:29) |miska|: /me has problems with OE cause gcc-cross searches for headers in /usr/include and linux-libc-headers store them in /include :-/
(01:57:14) fahhem: create a softlink
(01:58:05) |miska|: I did, so I can compile minimal image, but it has some problem with that softlink elsewhere :-/
(01:58:36) |miska|: Gotta go to school, bbl
(01:59:04) fahhem: bye
(02:01:30) zefanja: fahhem: how can I build the initrd?
(02:02:27) fahhem: no clue, try looking online?
(02:03:06) fahhem: alex uses this: http://old.hackndev.com/node/588
(02:26:04) fahhem: did it work?
(02:29:21) zefanja: fahhem: i tried another way with buildroot
(02:33:57) fahhem: did it work?
(02:34:38) zefanja: no =)
(02:35:35) zefanja: i ask myself if i could use any initrd?!
(02:37:39) zefanja: there is one in http://www.palmlinux.cz/p3t3/AngstromTreo650-v01.zip
(02:42:30) fahhem: i'm not sure, it seems like it wouldn't work
(02:42:35) fahhem: did you try the way alex did it?
(02:55:31) zefanja: not yet.-..i tried to checkout the sources for initramfs
(02:55:58) zefanja: is there only the git.hackndev..... or is there also a svn?
(03:00:08) fahhem: there is a svn, git, and git2
(03:04:25) zefanja: fahhem: I found a initramfs_data.cpio.gz in /usr ...i renamed it to initrd.gz and copy it to my sd card...the kernel boots but theres a kernel panic
(03:04:35) zefanja: is that the right initrd.gz??
(03:07:28) fahhem: i have no clue, actually
(03:07:28) fahhem: what is the kernel panic?
(03:07:35) fahhem: because it could just be it can't find your drive
(03:11:03) zefanja: VFS: cannot open root device "<NULL>" or unknwon-block(1,0)
(03:11:42) zefanja: and then: kernel panic...unable to mount root fs
(03:13:33) zefanja: but i tink the root="" in linuxboot.cfg is right
(03:13:43) zefanja: think
(03:13:45) fahhem: that's not right...
(03:13:55) fahhem: root has to equal something valid, i think
(03:14:04) fahhem: but hey, not a kernel dev
(03:15:35) zefanja: hmm...ok thx, fahhem, i'm have to learn many things, because this is all new to me
(03:15:55) fahhem: good luck
(03:16:01) fahhem: hopefully a kernel dev will come online soon
(03:17:26) zefanja: fahhem: jpp
(03:17:39) fahhem: jpp?
(03:17:50) zefanja: fahhem: jpp=yes ;-)
(03:18:06) fahhem: what language?
(03:18:15) zefanja: fahhem: in german
(03:18:37) zefanja: but it is a slang
(03:18:46) fahhem: ohh
(03:18:53) zefanja: right is: ja=yes
(03:19:11) fahhem: i would have understood that
(03:41:48) fahhem: darn it, i need a lifedrive disk image...
(04:15:44) fahhem: anybody online have a Lifedrive?
(04:16:14) fahhem: and are willing to copy the entire drive and lemme download it? :)
(04:16:33) fahhem: i left my LD in Berkeley, and I can't test my programming...
(04:27:38) univac: not me ;[
(05:03:34) Farcaller: hi all
(05:41:49) fahhem: hey Farcaller
(06:32:40) Marex: http://disk.jabbim.cz/marex%40jabber.cz/magicianbl.png
(06:32:42) Marex: http://disk.jabbim.cz/marex%40jabber.cz/magicianbl2.png
(06:32:45) Marex: ;-D
(06:33:05) fahhem: hey marex!
(06:33:11) fahhem: do you have your lifedrive working?
(06:33:41) Marex: that's not lifedrive
(06:33:47) Marex: and my battery is still dead :/
(06:33:51) fahhem: didn't you have a LD?
(06:34:00) fahhem: does your harddrive/memory card still work in it?
(06:34:08) Marex: sure
(06:34:14) fahhem: cuz i'd love a disk image right now :)
(06:34:16) Marex: just the battery has really low capacity
(06:34:26) fahhem: don't you have a cf card reader?
(06:34:36) Marex: I dont have palmld here :/
(06:34:42) Marex: it's in prague
(06:34:44) fahhem: oh shucks
(06:34:54) Marex: yea :/
(06:34:58) fahhem: how far is prague for you?
(06:35:56) fahhem: i mean, when would you get your ld if you needed it?
(06:38:34) Marex: about today ?
(06:38:49) Marex: (if I really wanted it ;) )
(06:38:53) Marex: it's on the opposite site of the country
(06:38:57) Marex: *side
(06:39:05) Marex: ~400 kilometers
(06:39:30) fahhem: oh wow, why are you so far away?
(06:39:38) Marex: Im at home ;-)
(06:39:54) fahhem: what's in prague?
(06:40:05) fahhem: college?
(06:43:27) Marex: school
(06:43:27) Marex: yea
(06:43:33) Marex: university
(06:43:50) fahhem: the two words are interchangeable in my vocabulary
(06:44:47) fahhem: so you're home for spring vacation?
(06:53:18) Marex: fahhem, just for a weekend
(06:53:51) fahhem: so you can send me a disk image soon? :)
(06:56:46) fahhem: haha, sorry for seeming pushy, but i'm at home for a week and no LD to test with
(07:08:29) Marex: fahhem, I have an exam tomorow ;)
(07:08:29) fahhem: ouch, good luck!
(07:10:52) Marex: thanks
(07:11:03) fahhem: what class?
(10:42:40) ferret_0567: how can I disable the framebuffer splash at boot time or even take it out entirely?
(10:42:55) ferret_0567: it always likes to turn the backlight to full on battery power
(10:43:38) ferret_0567: I shouldn't have to reboot Linux this much...I'm going to have to work on the kernel drivers...
(10:44:19) ferret_0567: I'm not sure if the CPU is just loaded or what but my LifeDrive seems to freeze sometimes when enabling bluetooth under Opie
(10:44:45) ferret_0567: maybe it's just that I don't like Opie that much and for that it hates me :/
(10:45:24) ferret_0567: /me needs to get a 40MB/s(max) CF card (faster or as fast as RAM) and plug it in
(10:45:57) ferret_0567: then swap space will be not like swap space
(11:06:49) ferret_0567: I _think_ the reason my device seems to hang is Opie
(11:07:12) ferret_0567: I'm stuck in menus with a blinking text cursor right now...
(11:08:35) ferret_0567: the device is still very much alive, just messed up...
(11:08:58) ferret_0567: couldn't fix it, have to reboot to Palm OS with the reset button :(
(11:09:07) ferret_0567: Opie is crap
(11:09:18) ferret_0567: very fast (at times) crap
(11:10:00) ferret_0567: I bet if I got a 40MB/s(max) CF card and installed GPE, I wouldn't be having this hanging problem...
(11:18:14) univac: is boboofdoom alive?
(14:51:14) ferret_0567_: helio from PDA
(14:52:37) ferret_0567_: bluetooth :(
(15:07:29) PseudoNymX: Need help installing linux on a Tungsten E2
(15:09:06) PseudoNymX: Anyone?
(15:09:06) ferret_0567_: hello
(15:09:08) PseudoNymX: Heya
(15:09:27) PseudoNymX: Can you help me install linux on a Tungsten E2?
(15:11:26) PseudoNymX: ...
(15:14:24) PseudoNymX: Is anyone even here?
(15:15:46) ferret_0567_: helllo
(15:16:07) PseudoNymX: So, can anyone help me install linux on a Tungsten E2?
(15:16:48) ferret_0567_: using bluetooth on pda
(15:16:59) ferret_0567_: :)
(15:17:27) ferret_0567: did you see "using bluetooth on PDA?"
(15:18:02) ferret_0567: sorry, I'm not really a programmer yet...
(15:18:08) ferret_0567: no wifi driver :(
(15:18:11) PseudoNymX: I don't think bluetooth is what I'm looking for...
(15:18:18) PseudoNymX: I'm looking to install LINUX on a PDA.
(15:18:21) ferret_0567: I think I can eventually do the job of making wifi work
(15:18:35) ferret_0567: not now, though
(15:18:57) ferret_0567: PseudoNymX: which one?
(15:19:11) ferret_0567: I'm using a LifeDrive and it's pretty easy on that one
(15:19:12) PseudoNymX: Tungsten E2
(15:19:23) ferret_0567: well, there might just be a install guide...
(15:19:33) ferret_0567: first, you must download a tar.bz2 full of test images
(15:19:49) PseudoNymX: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/PalmTungstenE2HowTo
(15:19:53) PseudoNymX: There's the guide
(15:19:59) PseudoNymX: I've done it. I get an error
(15:20:03) PseudoNymX: One sec, I'll post the error
(15:20:28) ferret_0567: maybe hackndev has a kernel and stuff ready on the front page...
(15:20:29) PseudoNymX: When booting, the last things to show up are:
(15:20:37) ferret_0567: you should notice that I am not using my PDA
(15:20:46) PseudoNymX: "switch_root: Bad console '/dev/console'"
(15:21:00) PseudoNymX: "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!"
(15:21:03) ferret_0567: PalmOne T|5: Ångstrom Opie (miska, snua12): LINK
(15:21:14) ferret_0567: That's all I see...
(15:21:17) ferret_0567: no E2 :(
(15:21:39) PseudoNymX: So you have no clue why I'm getting this error
(15:21:57) ferret_0567: nope
(15:22:09) PseudoNymX: Can you direct me to somebody who may?
(15:22:09) ferret_0567: it was way too easy on a lifedrive
(15:22:32) ferret_0567: someone in here may know, wait a while...this is #hackndev, after all  :)
(15:22:45) PseudoNymX: Nobody seems to be responsive except you and I.
(15:23:07) ferret_0567: Marex joined the channel recently
(15:23:13) PseudoNymX: It's a known fact that the number of responsive people in an IRC room is equal to the number of people in there, divided by twenty.
(15:23:16) PseudoNymX: Rounded down.
(15:23:22) ferret_0567: geez
(15:23:29) PseudoNymX: =P
(15:23:36) ferret_0567: my channel, ##linux-travism, must have 0% responsiveness, then
(15:23:46) PseudoNymX: Does it?
(15:23:53) ferret_0567: only one person in there, I'm looking for people to join it every once in a while...
(15:23:59) PseudoNymX: Heh
(15:24:08) ferret_0567: I don't spam people with privmsgs, at least
(15:24:23) PseudoNymX: pivmsg spam would be a relief
(15:24:27) PseudoNymX: *privmsg
(15:24:34) Marex: PseudoNymX, hi
(15:24:39) PseudoNymX: WHOA
(15:24:43) PseudoNymX: Creepy.
(15:24:57) PseudoNymX: Heya, Marex. Can you help me install linux on a Tungsten E2?
(15:24:57) ferret_0567: I said his name, so he's semi-active
(15:25:06) Marex: PseudoNymX, wait for medaglia to appear here
(15:25:06) ferret_0567: I think Marex is busy with school nowadays
(15:25:24) PseudoNymX: How often does medaglia pop up?
(15:25:42) Marex: PseudoNymX, hang on
(15:25:47) PseudoNymX: Alrighty.
(15:26:19) ferret_0567: oh crud, it's 5:25 PM
(15:26:27) ferret_0567: I better get back on my C programming...
(15:26:31) Marex: PseudoNymX, well I sent him message, just give it a few hours
(15:26:34) PseudoNymX: Ooh, what are you coding?
(15:26:37) PseudoNymX: Marex, thanks
(15:26:45) ferret_0567: I want to finish that LifeDrive WiFi driver
(15:26:49) PseudoNymX: Ah
(15:26:56) Sleep_Walker: :D
(15:26:57) ferret_0567: can't yet, don't know enough C
(15:27:16) PseudoNymX: Hm. I'll install java onto my PDA next.
(15:27:17) ferret_0567: so, I'm going to work on getting to know enough C to do the job, bbl
(15:27:20) PseudoNymX: Could use mobile coding. =P
(15:27:31) PseudoNymX: Arrighty. Good luck.
(15:27:34) ferret_0567: java...?
(15:27:36) Sleep_Walker: ferret_0567: maybe you can use pascal and create userspace wifi driver :)
(15:27:37) PseudoNymX: Yar.
(15:27:38) ferret_0567: that will take forever...
(15:27:48) ferret_0567: Sleep_Walker: rofl
(15:28:00) PseudoNymX: I saw some site that had something to do with JRE and JDK installation on handhelds
(15:28:03) ferret_0567: Java _will_ grind your PDA to a halt, unless it's for PDAs
(15:28:10) PseudoNymX: Well, yeah
(15:28:17) ferret_0567: again, bbl
(15:28:56) Marex: hmm ... looks like he is really serious about that wifi thingamie
(15:29:18) Marex: he wont be bored for quite some time I guess
(15:29:24) PseudoNymX: Heh
(15:29:27) PseudoNymX: Or just too busy to notice
(15:29:48) Marex: well it took me half a year to get that wifi chip even accept firmware and send some response
(15:30:02) Marex: :)
(15:30:12) PseudoNymX: Wow
(15:30:16) Marex: it's not that easy as he may think it is :)
(15:30:30) Marex: but ... let him be, he will find out sooner or later too
(15:30:47) PseudoNymX: You code in Java at all?
(15:31:15) Marex: nah, I hate such languages
(15:31:24) PseudoNymX: Really? Why's that?
(15:31:39) Marex: I dont like OOP
(15:31:52) PseudoNymX: Prepare for noob question:
(15:31:56) PseudoNymX: OOP?
(15:31:56) Marex: thats also why Im doing the lowlevel stuff
(15:31:58) PseudoNymX: Oh
(15:31:59) PseudoNymX: Right
(15:32:00) PseudoNymX: Duh
(15:32:01) PseudoNymX: Sorry
(15:32:06) Marex: Flood
(15:32:07) Marex: Death
(15:32:09) Marex: Blood
(15:32:11) Marex: Guts
(15:32:12) PseudoNymX: Lulz
(15:32:31) Marex: just ... calm down and wait for medaglia
(15:32:38) PseudoNymX: X3
(15:32:51) PseudoNymX: Alrighty. Is Perl easy to learn?
(15:32:54) Marex: btw what error do you get when booting E2 ?
(15:33:03) PseudoNymX: One sec, I'll copypaste from before
(15:33:12) Marex: use pastebin
(15:33:13) Marex: damned
(15:33:27) PseudoNymX:  "switch_root: Bad console '/dev/console'"
(15:33:28) PseudoNymX: "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!"
(15:33:38) Marex: I see
(15:33:46) Marex: you had to repartition your card, right ?
(15:33:51) PseudoNymX: Yeah
(15:33:57) Marex: do all the copying under root
(15:34:05) PseudoNymX: I always do any work under root
(15:34:11) Marex: or at least copy all the stuff that goes to ext2 under root
(15:34:23) PseudoNymX: I was under root the whole time
(15:34:23) Marex: then you are not mentally k
(15:34:26) PseudoNymX: XD
(15:34:29) Marex: hmm ...
(15:34:51) Marex: what did you use to extract the files from the archive ?
(15:35:02) PseudoNymX: bzip2
(15:36:07) Marex: you used that step by step guide ?
(15:36:25) Marex: Copy the files from the temporary directory to the root of the ext2 partition (requires root/superuser access).
(15:36:30) PseudoNymX: Yep
(15:36:39) Marex: this point, you have to use cp -Rpv to preserve privileges etc iirc
(15:36:52) PseudoNymX: Wait, what?
(15:36:52) Marex: also make sure, you have all the dev nodes on your card
(15:37:11) PseudoNymX: I should warn you, I'm not a veteran linux user
(15:37:33) Marex: just pastebin what you typed and I'll try to tell you where's the mistake
(15:37:47) PseudoNymX: Typed for the extraction, you mean?
(15:38:01) Marex: typed on the keyboard
(15:38:16) Marex: or rather ... do it this way
(15:38:22) PseudoNymX: That'll work
(15:39:10) Marex: assume you have your ext2 partition of memory card mounted to /mnt/ext2
(15:39:24) PseudoNymX: Alrighty
(15:39:58) Marex: wget http://nerdfeliz.com/palmte2/new_image.ext2.bz2 ; bunzip2 new_image.ext2.bz2 ; mkdir /tmp/mount ; mount -o loop new_image.ext2 /tmp/mount ; mount /dev/sdXY /mnt/ext2 ; cp -Rpv /tmp/mount/ /mnt/ext2 ; sync ; umount /mnt/ext2 /tmp/mount ; rmdir /tmp/mount
(15:40:03) Marex: this should do the trick
(15:40:14) ferret_0567_: /me ís watchìng on PDA
(15:40:16) Marex: replace sdXY with appropriate device
(15:41:30) Marex: not anymore :-)
(15:41:42) PseudoNymX: I don't get what sdXY should be
(15:41:42) Marex: hmm ... now his PDA probably crashed :-D
(15:41:51) Marex: you have card reader. right ?
(15:42:21) PseudoNymX: Sorta.
(15:42:24) PseudoNymX: Card-to-USB
(15:42:26) PseudoNymX: Same thing
(15:42:29) Marex: yea
(15:42:45) Marex: then it appears in /dev as sdXY ... check dmesg
(15:42:52) PseudoNymX: Ah
(15:42:56) PseudoNymX: It's sdc
(15:43:04) Marex: X is device id and Y partition id
(15:43:09) PseudoNymX: Roight
(15:43:14) Marex: then it's something like sdc2 or so
(15:43:20) PseudoNymX: Right
(15:43:25) PseudoNymX: I want the ext2 partition, right?
(15:43:27) Marex: or sdc3
(15:43:37) Marex: depends on where you put that ext2 partition
(15:43:43) PseudoNymX: Right
(15:45:00) Marex: Sleep_Walker, you see that ? ^
(15:45:11) Marex: Sleep_Walker, I was able to calmly help a person
(15:45:21) PseudoNymX: Hahaha, did I just help you win a bet? X3
(15:45:43) Marex: nah, you just dont know me yet
(15:45:49) Sleep_Walker: Marex: sorry, I was watching some film, could you do it once again? :)
(15:46:03) Marex: forget it
(15:47:28) PseudoNymX: Running that line you sent
(15:48:16) Marex: ah damned ... I accidentally dropped rm -rf / in between the commands
(15:48:20) Sleep_Walker: Marex: wow, even no "rm -rf /"  there!
(15:48:21) Sleep_Walker: ah
(15:48:22) Sleep_Walker: :D
(15:48:34) PseudoNymX: o.0
(15:48:45) Marex: Sleep_Walker, it's encoded there, you cant read between the lines ;D
(15:48:46) PseudoNymX: Apparently I dodged the bullet?
(15:50:14) Sleep_Walker: Marex: you're even mounting filesystems instead of dd
(15:50:33) PseudoNymX: Would probably help if I did this under root
(15:51:00) Sleep_Walker: PseudoNymX: you have to run it as root
(15:51:08) PseudoNymX: Would sudo work?
(15:51:12) Marex: no
(15:51:13) Sleep_Walker: yes :)
(15:51:16) PseudoNymX: HAH
(15:51:20) Sleep_Walker: no?
(15:51:28) Marex: Sleep_Walker, sudo doesnt give you full privileges
(15:51:34) PseudoNymX: Right, well, brb then
(15:51:38) Marex: PseudoNymX, just use su and be fine
(15:51:39) Sleep_Walker: su -c 'wget http://nerdfeliz.com/palmte2/new_image.ext2.bz2 ; bunzip2 new_image.ext2.bz2 ; mkdir /tmp/mount ; mount -o loop new_image.ext2 /tmp/mount ; mount /dev/sdXY /mnt/ext2 ; cp -Rpv /tmp/mount/ /mnt/ext2 ; sync ; umount /mnt/ext2 /tmp/mount ; rmdir /tmp/mount'
(15:51:41) Marex: moron
(15:51:47) Marex: Sleep_Walker, yea
(15:51:51) Sleep_Walker: I don't know sudo much
(15:51:59) Marex: me neither, I dont like it
(15:52:08) Marex: it's way too bububuntuish
(15:52:28) Sleep_Walker: isn't it some sort of debian? :b
(15:53:35) Marex: nah
(15:55:32) PseudoNymX: Sorry, can you copy+paste that line again?
(15:56:08) |miska|:  su -c 'wget http://nerdfeliz.com/palmte2/new_image.ext2.bz2 ; bunzip2 new_image.ext2.bz2 ; mkdir /tmp/mount ; mount -o loop new_image.ext2 /tmp/mount ; mount /dev/sdXY /mnt/ext2 ; cp -Rpv /tmp/mount/ /mnt/ext2 ; sync ; umount /mnt/ext2 /tmp/mount ; rmdir /tmp/mount'
(15:56:58) PseudoNymX: What's with the su -c bit?
(15:57:38) PseudoNymX: *Noob*
(15:57:39) Sleep_Walker: PseudoNymX: that's something like sudo without sudo
(15:57:52) PseudoNymX: Ah.
(15:57:56) PseudoNymX: Well, then I don't need it. =P
(16:06:46) ferret_0567: does anyone have a openssh-server ipk I can send to my PDA?
(16:07:43) Marex: shit
(16:09:19) Marex: Sleep_Walker, the harddrive in the laptop I had on linuxexpo last year seems a bit broken
(16:09:19) ferret_0567: I am just coming out of my candy-eating (it's Easter, a religious holiday...) but who cares?
(16:09:19) ferret_0567: so, soon I'm going to get on my C
(16:09:19) ferret_0567: Marex: ouch!
(16:09:19) Marex: Sleep_Walker, I guess we will show them next level of embeddness ;)
(16:09:19) ferret_0567: angstrom distribution feed browser...hmmz...
(16:09:19) Marex: Sleep_Walker, booting from Matejicek's flash ;D
(16:09:30) Sleep_Walker: hmmm :)
(16:09:39) ferret_0567: nice :)
(16:10:12) ferret_0567: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?action=details&pnm=openssh-sshd
(16:10:15) ferret_0567: aha!
(16:10:41) ferret_0567: send that over bluetooth, get pand back up...and...I'm going to have some fun!
(16:10:43) Marex: Sleep_Walker, Im sure he will be happy to see they survived from last LE ;)
(16:11:05) Sleep_Walker: Marex: I need some more - for my router :)
(16:11:52) ferret_0567: angstrom is nice!
(16:11:59) ferret_0567: I like this distro...
(16:12:00) Marex: Sleep_Walker, I put microdrive from palmld in my router :D
(16:12:18) Marex: ... I like koen ...
(16:12:19) ferret_0567: Marex: did you replace the microdrive with a CF card sucessfully?
(16:12:25) ferret_0567: I have not tried that yet
(16:12:26) Sleep_Walker: Marex: :D
(16:12:43) ferret_0567: and I'd think it would get the most insane speed boost I have _EVER_ seen
(16:13:03) ferret_0567: 40MB/s max CF card versus what...1MB/s?
(16:13:41) ferret_0567: I downloaded hackndev docs for "How to reinstall Palm OS onto a new CF card"
(16:13:55) ferret_0567: I need that crappy OS to boot Linux for now...
(16:14:10) ferret_0567: my PDA has been on for at least 3 hours now with no reboots
(16:14:27) ferret_0567: trying to take a screenie might kill the microdrive...stupid swapping
(16:14:43) ferret_0567: so, I want to replace the shitdrive with a real CF card
(16:14:53) Marex: 3 hours, what an uptime
(16:15:06) Marex: mzb's had ~300 days uptime
(16:15:10) ferret_0567: 3:33 min., to be exact
(16:15:10) Marex: he used it as a wifi router
(16:15:21) ferret_0567: Marex: on a PDA?
(16:15:35) Marex: yea, he used PDA as a wifi router
(16:15:37) ferret_0567: that was from my LifeDrive XD
(16:15:40) ferret_0567: wow
(16:15:47) Marex: ipaq h22xx or something
(16:16:09) ferret_0567: does it have a stylus-enabled config screen?
(16:16:24) Marex: what for?
(16:16:40) ferret_0567: I dunno...not much unless you want to brag about it, I guess
(16:17:10) ferret_0567: /me rechecks the "uname -a" to make sure he is downloading the right package
(16:17:53) ferret_0567: armv5tel, yep
(16:18:11) ferret_0567: /me trys to send it over bluetooth
(16:18:25) ferret_0567: is there any way to make a "Drive Mode" for Linux, btw?
(16:18:31) ferret_0567: that would be awesome!
(16:18:45) Marex: sure, write driver for usb controller
(16:18:56) ferret_0567: and then what?
(16:19:18) ferret_0567: boot an initrd that makes the hard drive get exported?
(16:19:52) ferret_0567: I downloaded the docs for the HDD driver project I want to work on
(16:20:07) ferret_0567: does that also include the USB controller docs?
(16:20:50) ferret_0567: I wish I had my server up and running...then you could see the docs that I have
(16:21:17) ferret_0567: Farcaller sent the links to me after he was finished talking with you
(16:21:22) Marex: that usb looks pretty easy to me
(16:21:30) Marex: I think Ill look at it tomorow
(16:21:32) ferret_0567: great!
(16:21:41) ferret_0567: I'll get back on C then
(16:21:45) ferret_0567: ttyl
(16:23:44) ferret_0567: /me puts his LifeDrive in sleep mode to charge and then opens vim and the C book that he has sitting right in front of him
(16:24:03) Marex: and noone cares :E
(16:24:15) ferret_0567: whatever...
(16:29:40) PseudoNymX: Well
(16:29:44) PseudoNymX: I get the same error message
(16:34:55) PseudoNymX: Nevermind
(16:34:59) PseudoNymX: Not yet anyways
(16:35:07) PseudoNymX: I suffered from a clear case of doin it wron
(17:52:28) Marex: ferret_0567, are you good at microsoldering ?
(17:59:59) Marex: snua12_n770, ping
(18:27:29) PhrkOnLsh: /me lol's at 00:24 :)
(18:57:00) medaglia: Marex, microsoldering?
(18:57:06) medaglia: what are you planning?
(18:57:06) medaglia: :P
(18:57:16) Marex: hardware trace\
(18:57:34) medaglia: cool
(19:01:39) Marex: Im afraid the chip in my palmld died
(19:01:45) Marex: or maybe cable died
(19:01:52) Marex: or just something ... died :)
(19:02:16) Marex: so I wont be able to work on that driver ... pity, it seemed to be quite easy
(19:56:32) fahhem: Marex: There are IRC logs available...
(19:56:49) fahhem: i'd watch what i say behind people's backs :)
(20:03:19) fahhem: so the only people with working Lifedrives who are interested in the WiFi driver is ferret and me?
(20:04:22) fahhem: Marex: if you have any inspiration or just wanna test some code on a LD, I'm willing to upload it to my LD (if i get to see the code :P)
(20:04:48) fahhem: no "rm -rf /" tricks just cuz i have a LD sitting around at my apt
(20:49:29) Marex: fahhem, dont worry, I still have loads of MMCs here
(20:49:35) Marex: I can just boot from them
(20:49:39) fahhem: mmcs?
(20:49:53) Marex: multimedia cards
(20:50:00) Marex: I dont need USB on lifedrive ;D
(20:53:12) Marex: fahhem, btw about that wifi Im still interested, but there are many other projects other than palmld
(20:54:00) PhrkOnLsh: Marex: Wifi comes before life. It's the nature of things.
(20:57:43) PhrkOnLsh: so, I installed bitbake from apt, what else do I need to get OE to work?
(20:57:55) PhrkOnLsh: cat with the T|X
(20:58:01) Marex: read the damned manual
(20:59:40) PhrkOnLsh: The manual is shit :-E~~~~
(21:00:23) Marex: everyone managed to get it working using the manual, it's ok, just that you are an asshole
(21:00:32) Marex: fahhem, be sure to log this
(21:01:08) PhrkOnLsh: ouch
(21:01:29) PhrkOnLsh: 'just that you are an asshole' this is coming from Marex, too
(21:03:54) Marex: yea, that's my line of truth
(21:04:24) ferret_0567: hey guys
(21:04:54) ferret_0567: Marex: when I read "multimedia cards", I barfed.
(21:05:16) Marex: any problem with that ?
(21:05:35) Marex: noone holds you to be here
(21:05:41) ferret_0567: just that I can get USB working under Linux sometime, and it will kick the multimedia cards ass
(21:05:48) PhrkOnLsh: /me coughs
(21:05:53) Marex: yea sure ...
(21:06:13) PhrkOnLsh: I wrote a wlan driver last night, btw. It was really easy too :P
(21:06:15) ferret_0567: I can even put the LifeDrive into Drive Mode (under Palm OS...)
(21:06:22) ferret_0567: PhrkOnLsh: very cool
(21:06:46) ferret_0567: /me needs to go to bed, then he can really start getting on his C in the morning
(21:06:50) PhrkOnLsh: wow, ferret_0567 how did you do that? how much K&R c did that take?
(21:06:59) ferret_0567: PhrkOnLsh: not yet
(21:07:06) ferret_0567: I haven't read the whole thing :(
(21:07:13) PhrkOnLsh: no, the drive mode thinger, sounds complicated
(21:07:23) Marex: :D
(21:07:24) ferret_0567: PhrkOnLsh: I said under Palm OS
(21:07:36) ferret_0567: I want to make it work the same under Linux, just about
(21:07:48) PhrkOnLsh: oh, shit, and here I thought you'd been all "1337 bitbake omg" but nope
(21:08:09) ferret_0567: sorry, I really need to work on my stuff
(21:08:14) ferret_0567: I need to get 1337
(21:08:20) PhrkOnLsh: /me coughs
(21:08:32) PhrkOnLsh: if that happens you will never build a wlan driver.
(21:08:34) Marex: /me pukes
(21:10:48) Marex: someone is trying to pull some attention on himself
(21:10:48) ferret_0567: if what happens?
(21:10:48) PhrkOnLsh: /me jumps around
(21:10:48) PhrkOnLsh: if you become 1337
(21:10:48) ferret_0567: PhrkOnLsh: please stop that
(21:10:48) PhrkOnLsh: /me stops jumping around
(21:10:48) ferret_0567: then I need to become a computer programmer with a ton of Zen
(21:10:48) PhrkOnLsh: 1337 != good coder
(21:10:48) Marex: 1337 |-|/-\ >< 0 R
(21:10:48) Marex: :D
(21:10:48) PhrkOnLsh: 1337 == GUY WHO T4LKS LYKE THIS OR LIKE MAREX JUST DID
(21:10:48) PhrkOnLsh: oh, too many vowels
(21:10:48) ferret_0567: rofl
(21:10:48) ferret_0567: you have a point, though
(21:10:48) PhrkOnLsh: /me pokes ferret_0567 with his point
(21:10:48) PhrkOnLsh: I"m trying to live up to the title of 'asshole' that Marex awarded me.
(21:10:48) PhrkOnLsh: (if you can't tell)
(21:10:57) Marex: PhrkOnLsh, poor you
(21:11:06) PhrkOnLsh: no, it's tons of fun
(21:14:02) ferret_0567: Fedora 8 DVD == downloaded, seeding
(21:14:11) Marex: noone cares
(21:14:18) PhrkOnLsh: I do, Marex
(21:14:23) PhrkOnLsh: It's very exciting :-B
(21:14:37) PhrkOnLsh: I want to know every detail of Fedora 8 -- Reseeded
(21:14:44) ferret_0567: would somebody give a damn if I learned C really well and made some really cool drivers for the Palm PDAs?
(21:14:45) PhrkOnLsh: In theaters March 32nd
(21:14:59) PhrkOnLsh: Sure, but until then you're just seeding torrents
(21:15:13) Marex: ferret_0567, that wont happen anyway
(21:15:25) PhrkOnLsh: but when it does, ppl will care
(21:15:26) ferret_0567: Marex: it depends how much I want it to happen
(21:15:33) ferret_0567: not how much you say I can't do it
(21:15:35) PhrkOnLsh: I want to have sex... now
(21:15:39) Marex: fine, then stop blahing here and get to work
(21:16:02) Marex: PhrkOnLsh, same for you
(21:16:05) Marex: ;)
(21:16:19) PhrkOnLsh: Marex: I fuck around on the weekends. It's monday night
(21:16:29) PhrkOnLsh: /me grabs an ice pop, brb
(21:16:38) Marex: Belldandy, time
(21:16:38) Belldandy: Marex: 05:22 AM, March 25, 2008
(21:16:47) ferret_0567: /me decides to code for about 45 min. or until his face *headsmash*'s the desk, then go to bed
(21:17:07) PhrkOnLsh: mmmm icey
(21:17:29) Marex: ferret_0567, I told you to stop blahing irrelevant things here
(21:17:31) ferret_0567: so bbl, I'm already starting to open my book :)
(21:17:49) PhrkOnLsh: /me decides to make snide remarks regarding ferret_0567's irrelevence and work on his engrish project
(21:18:04) PhrkOnLsh: I'll get OE working bitlater
(21:34:17) Marex: darn
(21:34:37) Marex: today will be fun
(21:36:22) Marex: looks like I will have to set up about three different OEs ...
(21:41:02) PhrkOnLsh: meh
(21:41:06) PhrkOnLsh: /me just rtfm's again
(21:45:29) PhrkOnLsh: does hackndev use org.openembedded.dev as the developer branch or something else?
(21:45:53) fahhem: i've used that before, but i dunno if its changed since a year ago
(21:46:11) PhrkOnLsh: alrighty
(21:46:14) PhrkOnLsh: hows stuff fahhem ?
(21:46:25) fahhem: alright
(21:46:40) fahhem: i need a lifedrive disk image to work this week
(21:46:48) fahhem: i forgot my LD in berkeley
(21:48:51) PhrkOnLsh: Oh, that's sucks
(21:48:57) PhrkOnLsh: where are you now?
(21:49:02) fahhem: san diego
(21:50:02) PhrkOnLsh: ah, cool
(21:50:08) fahhem: where are you?
(21:50:53) PhrkOnLsh: phoenix
(21:50:59) PhrkOnLsh: it's getting hot already :(
(21:51:25) fahhem: sorry
(21:51:44) PhrkOnLsh: myeah
(21:51:51) PhrkOnLsh: it's alright mostly
(21:52:01) PhrkOnLsh: except when I get in my car to drive home it's really evil
(21:52:07) PhrkOnLsh: damned leather seats :-B
(21:52:29) fahhem: haha, ouch
(21:52:35) fahhem: do the leather seats help in the winter?
(21:52:47) PhrkOnLsh: no!
(21:52:51) PhrkOnLsh: It's even worse then :)
(21:53:08) PhrkOnLsh: I have to put a towel on them or it freezes me legs and other stuff
(21:53:16) PhrkOnLsh: Phoenix is a wierd place
(21:53:32) fahhem: well, i g2g, ttyl
(21:53:36) fahhem: /me goes to eat dinner
(21:53:37) PhrkOnLsh: it's incredibly hot in the summers and, at least in the mornings, incredibly cold in the winter
(21:53:42) PhrkOnLsh: ah, cool, later
(21:54:27) PhrkOnLsh: http://old.hackndev.com/node/791 <-- lmao
(21:54:36) PhrkOnLsh: my school's filters hnd as hacking too :)
(22:26:18) fahhem: my old school filtered hackaday.com
(22:26:49) fahhem: dude, that guy has a huge screen!
(22:29:08) Eomer: hello
(22:29:16) fahhem: Hello Eomer
(22:29:42) Eomer: hmm... maybe this is not the right channel, but, can someone help me with a problem with my tro 680?
(22:29:52) fahhem: what's wrong with it?
(22:30:55) Eomer: dotn know, i was talkgin with my gf about an hour ago and now that i want to make a call i can hear but it seems that the mic is powered off because the person i'm calling cant hear me
(22:31:46) fahhem: did you try restarting the phone?
(22:32:05) Eomer: only soft reset, i dont remeber how to hard reset
(22:32:11) Eomer: can you help me?
(22:32:26) fahhem: to hard reset, you probably hold the power button down while pressing the reset button
(22:32:34) fahhem: that's the generic way Palm does it
(22:36:16) step2back: hello, all
(22:36:34) PhrkOnLsh: hi
(22:36:50) fahhem: hello
(22:36:58) fahhem: how's it been going?
(22:37:07) PhrkOnLsh: pretty good ;)
(22:45:03) Eomer: have you never heard of a problem like that witha a 680 ?
(22:45:18) fahhem: no, we don't usually hear about such problems
(22:45:33) fahhem: we hear more about kernel panics about mounts not mounting or invalid consoles
(22:45:46) fahhem: or dead batteries or bricked pdas
(22:46:14) Eomer: hmm... yeah, wrong channle indeed hahaha
(22:46:25) Eomer: where do you think i can ask?
(22:46:35) fahhem: no clue, i didn't use IRC until hackndev :)
(22:48:40) PhrkOnLsh: #palm
(22:49:07) Eomer: i cant send messages there
(22:49:15) Eomer: maybe i am banned
(22:49:23) fahhem: no, you need +v (voice)
(22:49:29) fahhem: i dunno how you'd get it
(22:49:39) fahhem: or maybe they took it off you for some reason
(22:55:21) CIA-51: fahhem dalboot * r9a7f11db8a28 /bootmenu/ (bootmenu.c bootmenu.h config.c config.h main.c): Can now parse configuration files.
(22:55:26) fahhem: that's me!
(22:59:59) PhrkOnLsh: wha?
(23:00:07) PhrkOnLsh: no, it was obviousoly marex
(23:00:25) fahhem: darn marex!
(23:00:41) PhrkOnLsh: I know, you slacker
(23:00:55) PhrkOnLsh: Eomer: hold on, fleebailey fucked everything up in there
(23:06:04) Eomer: PhrkOnLsh, i dony understand
(23:06:34) PhrkOnLsh: Eomer: fllebailey was being a moron earlier and made the cahnnel +m
(23:06:34) Eomer: oh i see
(23:06:40) PhrkOnLsh: so you need voice to talk
(23:06:44) Eomer: the palm channel
(23:06:45) PhrkOnLsh: and he as too stupid to change it back
(23:06:56) Eomer: come one, tell him to change that back
(23:07:04) Eomer: please
(23:08:39) PhrkOnLsh: I have
(23:10:09) Eomer: and nobody can cahnge that
(23:10:09) Eomer: ?
(23:10:09) PhrkOnLsh: Nobody but the flea and erik, neither of which are around apparently