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	<title>Comments on: Google Talk Invisible</title>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://fahhem.com/blog/2009/02/google-talk-invisible/comment-page-1/#comment-2103</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 17:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes! PLease! I need it! I applaud you sir, I&#039;ll be waiting for your new release!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes! PLease! I need it! I applaud you sir, I&#8217;ll be waiting for your new release!</p>
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		<title>By: Fahhem</title>
		<link>http://fahhem.com/blog/2009/02/google-talk-invisible/comment-page-1/#comment-2087</link>
		<dc:creator>Fahhem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1510&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Karen&lt;/a&gt;, 

Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention. This was only supposed to be a quick plugin for semi-working invisible but due to the extreme need for it I&#039;m getting many comments that I can&#039;t respond to. Using your first link, I will try to update my plugin to work correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1510" rel="nofollow">@Karen</a>, </p>
<p>Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention. This was only supposed to be a quick plugin for semi-working invisible but due to the extreme need for it I&#8217;m getting many comments that I can&#8217;t respond to. Using your first link, I will try to update my plugin to work correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: KP</title>
		<link>http://fahhem.com/blog/2009/02/google-talk-invisible/comment-page-1/#comment-1837</link>
		<dc:creator>KP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 20:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The plugin causes Pidgin on Windows to crash when setting the global status to &quot;Offline.&quot; This happens consistently, at least in Pidgin 2.7.0 and an earlier version (2.6.x). It is not necessary to be invisible prior to going offline in order for the crash to occur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The plugin causes Pidgin on Windows to crash when setting the global status to &#8220;Offline.&#8221; This happens consistently, at least in Pidgin 2.7.0 and an earlier version (2.6.x). It is not necessary to be invisible prior to going offline in order for the crash to occur.</p>
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		<title>By: Rui</title>
		<link>http://fahhem.com/blog/2009/02/google-talk-invisible/comment-page-1/#comment-1760</link>
		<dc:creator>Rui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 16:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-----Original Message-----
From: daniel.atallah@gmail.com [mailto:daniel.atallah@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Atallah
To: Rui Araujo
Cc: support@pidgin.im
Subject: Re: Error opening Pidgin

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:15, Rui Araujo  wrote:
&gt; I got a Windows error when I executed Pidgin after a trashfiles cleanup and windows update.
&gt; The error shows up and when I respond to it, the Pidgin aborts and ends…
&gt; I cannot use Pidgin since that time.
&gt; I tried to re-install pidgin but the problem continues…
&gt; Can anyone help?

It looks like it is crashing in the &quot;gtalkinvisible&quot; plugin (which is
a third party plugin that I&#039;m not familiar with).

Delete ...\Pidgin\plugins\gtalkinvisible.dll and see if that fixes the crashing.

If not, see the instructions at
http://d.pidgin.im/wiki/TipsForBugReports for how to get a crash report</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211;<br />
From: <a href="mailto:daniel.atallah@gmail.com">daniel.atallah@gmail.com</a> [mailto:daniel.atallah@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Atallah<br />
To: Rui Araujo<br />
Cc: <a href="mailto:support@pidgin.im">support@pidgin.im</a><br />
Subject: Re: Error opening Pidgin</p>
<p>On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:15, Rui Araujo  wrote:<br />
&gt; I got a Windows error when I executed Pidgin after a trashfiles cleanup and windows update.<br />
&gt; The error shows up and when I respond to it, the Pidgin aborts and ends…<br />
&gt; I cannot use Pidgin since that time.<br />
&gt; I tried to re-install pidgin but the problem continues…<br />
&gt; Can anyone help?</p>
<p>It looks like it is crashing in the &#8220;gtalkinvisible&#8221; plugin (which is<br />
a third party plugin that I&#8217;m not familiar with).</p>
<p>Delete &#8230;\Pidgin\plugins\gtalkinvisible.dll and see if that fixes the crashing.</p>
<p>If not, see the instructions at<br />
<a href="http://d.pidgin.im/wiki/TipsForBugReports" rel="nofollow">http://d.pidgin.im/wiki/TipsForBugReports</a> for how to get a crash report</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://fahhem.com/blog/2009/02/google-talk-invisible/comment-page-1/#comment-1746</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 18:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1366&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Jono&lt;/a&gt;, Has anyone gotten this to work with Adium on Mac OS X?  I&#039;m not sure where to put the file.  I do not have Pidgin as a stand alone app.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1366" rel="nofollow">@Jono</a>, Has anyone gotten this to work with Adium on Mac OS X?  I&#8217;m not sure where to put the file.  I do not have Pidgin as a stand alone app.</p>
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		<title>By: siorarina</title>
		<link>http://fahhem.com/blog/2009/02/google-talk-invisible/comment-page-1/#comment-1519</link>
		<dc:creator>siorarina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a bit of explanations:
- this plugin does not implement any proposed standard for invisibility (like XMPP-00186 or by implementing XMPP-0016), it&#039;s a simple &#039;workaround&#039; not completely correct.
- the only &#039;correct&#039; way to implement invisibility in google talk is by using shared status that cannot be implemented via plugin. It requires a patch to libpurple like those in http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/4509
- what this plugin do is to change presence to unavailable. In this state, presence update from other contacts will not be sent to your account becouse they believe that your account is &#039;unavailable&#039;! The only way with this method to keep buddy list up to date is to send to every contact a presence probe (just like a polling).
Hope this can help to understand the situation...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a bit of explanations:<br />
- this plugin does not implement any proposed standard for invisibility (like XMPP-00186 or by implementing XMPP-0016), it&#8217;s a simple &#8216;workaround&#8217; not completely correct.<br />
- the only &#8216;correct&#8217; way to implement invisibility in google talk is by using shared status that cannot be implemented via plugin. It requires a patch to libpurple like those in <a href="http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/4509" rel="nofollow">http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/4509</a><br />
- what this plugin do is to change presence to unavailable. In this state, presence update from other contacts will not be sent to your account becouse they believe that your account is &#8216;unavailable&#8217;! The only way with this method to keep buddy list up to date is to send to every contact a presence probe (just like a polling).<br />
Hope this can help to understand the situation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://fahhem.com/blog/2009/02/google-talk-invisible/comment-page-1/#comment-1510</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 20:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the effort. However, the plugin does not work at all for me no matter if I am using only gmail account or with other accounts on pidgin. 

http://chinmaykamat.wordpress.com/2010/01/22/google-talk-invisible-mode-in-pidgin/
The method described in the above link works but it requires sending several messages to the XMPP console (they are different than the messages posted in the ticket.)

And I found another patch which works for pidgin 2.5.8 but since i&#039;m using 2.6.6 I don&#039;t bother to recompile my pidgin to implement the patch.
http://developer.pidgin.im/attachment/ticket/4509/gtalk-invisibility.patch 

It would be greatly appreciated if you can fix your plugin / explain more in detail how to get it working.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the effort. However, the plugin does not work at all for me no matter if I am using only gmail account or with other accounts on pidgin. </p>
<p><a href="http://chinmaykamat.wordpress.com/2010/01/22/google-talk-invisible-mode-in-pidgin/" rel="nofollow">http://chinmaykamat.wordpress.com/2010/01/22/google-talk-invisible-mode-in-pidgin/</a><br />
The method described in the above link works but it requires sending several messages to the XMPP console (they are different than the messages posted in the ticket.)</p>
<p>And I found another patch which works for pidgin 2.5.8 but since i&#8217;m using 2.6.6 I don&#8217;t bother to recompile my pidgin to implement the patch.<br />
<a href="http://developer.pidgin.im/attachment/ticket/4509/gtalk-invisibility.patch" rel="nofollow">http://developer.pidgin.im/attachment/ticket/4509/gtalk-invisibility.patch</a> </p>
<p>It would be greatly appreciated if you can fix your plugin / explain more in detail how to get it working.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://fahhem.com/blog/2009/02/google-talk-invisible/comment-page-1/#comment-1392</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 05:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1326&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@undrline&lt;/a&gt;: Sorry, I don&#039;t know how to build DLLs for Windows.  I use Linux exclusively...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1326" rel="nofollow">@undrline</a>: Sorry, I don&#8217;t know how to build DLLs for Windows.  I use Linux exclusively&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jono</title>
		<link>http://fahhem.com/blog/2009/02/google-talk-invisible/comment-page-1/#comment-1366</link>
		<dc:creator>Jono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Fahhem,

Thanks for doing this - it&#039;s been something that&#039;s irritated me for quite a while! Unfortunately one of my machines is a mac...

I see you list Adium as being compatible.. However, after quite some searching and fiddling, I can&#039;t seem to get it to work. Do you have any idea where I should put the .so?

I have a directory tree listing of both the /Applications/Adium.app and ~/Library/Application\ Support/Adium\ 2.0/ I can mail you if that would help.

~ Jono</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Fahhem,</p>
<p>Thanks for doing this &#8211; it&#8217;s been something that&#8217;s irritated me for quite a while! Unfortunately one of my machines is a mac&#8230;</p>
<p>I see you list Adium as being compatible.. However, after quite some searching and fiddling, I can&#8217;t seem to get it to work. Do you have any idea where I should put the .so?</p>
<p>I have a directory tree listing of both the /Applications/Adium.app and ~/Library/Application\ Support/Adium\ 2.0/ I can mail you if that would help.</p>
<p>~ Jono</p>
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		<title>By: undrline</title>
		<link>http://fahhem.com/blog/2009/02/google-talk-invisible/comment-page-1/#comment-1326</link>
		<dc:creator>undrline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1217&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Dan&lt;/a&gt;, could you compile your mod as a windows binary dll?  I&#039;m having some trouble doing it myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1217" rel="nofollow">@Dan</a>, could you compile your mod as a windows binary dll?  I&#8217;m having some trouble doing it myself.</p>
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